Did I fold correctly or should I have called? |
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Posted Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:17 pm GMT by Wada
Was this a proper time to fold when the King came on the turn or should I have called the $0.25 bet - I see the Jack on the river but I still am not sure about pot odds and whether or not I should call a bet depending on the odds etc... I felt that once I saw the King it was very likely that I was going to be beat since I only had a Jack - so I folded.
Im playing as "Yaada" and keep in mind I played the J 2 cuz I only have .15 more to call in the small blind.
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Hand #1188812-702 at Istanbul ($.25/$.50 Hold'em)
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Started at 11/Mar/04 15:53:08
Yaada is at seat 0 with $15.45.
dicefordeath is at seat 1 with $6.25.
Punchy KGB is at seat 2 with $30.30.
Steve09 is at seat 3 with $21.40.
texashal is at seat 4 with $15.50.
eddie5 is at seat 5 with $7.95.
phil954 is at seat 6 with $14.35.
jwpokergod is at seat 7 with $22.80.
okkiddo is at seat 8 with $24.75.
Blue Devil is at seat 9 with $22.10.
The button is at seat 9.
Yaada posts the small blind of $.10.
dicefordeath posts the big blind of $.25.
Yaada: Js 2s
dicefordeath: -- --
Punchy KGB: -- --
Steve09: -- --
texashal: -- --
eddie5: -- --
phil954: -- --
jwpokergod: -- --
okkiddo: -- --
Blue Devil: -- --
Pre-flop:
Punchy KGB folds. Steve09 calls. texashal calls.
eddie5 calls. phil954 folds. jwpokergod folds.
okkiddo folds. Blue Devil folds. Yaada calls.
dicefordeath checks.
Flop (board: Td 5h Jh):
Yaada bets $.25. dicefordeath folds. Steve09 calls.
texashal folds. eddie5 calls.
Turn (board: Td 5h Jh Kd):
Yaada checks. Steve09 checks. eddie5 bets $.50.
Yaada folds. Steve09 calls.
River (board: Td 5h Jh Kd Jc):
Steve09 checks. eddie5 bets $.50. Steve09 calls.
Showdown:
eddie5 shows Kh Qh.
eddie5 has Kh Qh Jh Kd Jc: two pair, kings and jacks.
Steve09 mucks cards.
(Steve09 has Tc 7d.)
Hand #1188812-702 Summary:
$.20 is raked from a pot of $4.
eddie5 wins $3.80 with two pair, kings and jacks.
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Posted Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:30 pm GMT by Dave B
You had the top pair after the flop-which is a good hand. You should have ignored the K on the turn and made another bet. If they have the K, they will either slow play you or reraise. Slow play-then you get your trips on the river. Reraise-then you know that they likely have your J w/ a bad kicker beat.
Think if it this way-so he had you beat on the turn and you folded, great. What if he had Q 10 and the K game him a str8 draw so he decided to bet since you showed weakness. Now you folded to nothing.
Posted Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:47 am GMT by Wada
Ok let me see if I understand you correctly. Instead of checking on the turn when the King came I could have just bet for another big bet to see what would happen since the pot odds are good? or had money invested in the pot? 1 more big bet no big deal - he calls I get to see what happens and get the trips. Now if he reraises me then I fold? I should have folded after betting?
2nd question pertaining to your example of Q 10. Had I not Checked on the turn I would not have shown weakness. My checking on the turn showed weakness? Especially in the case of having Q 10 looking for the straight draw.
Basically in not knowing what he has on the turn, by me checking I showed weakness (either way - this example and Q 10 example) and I should have just called, if he reraise then I fold - this is what Im understanding out of that situation- right?
Posted Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:30 pm GMT by Dave B
I think you have it. I would like others to comment too.
I play an aggressive style when I am in a hand. I never want to show weakness unless I have a monster hand. From what I saw, there wasnt any preflop raise (which may have indicated AK) or anything else that would have put one of the other players on a K.
You flopped the top pair-that is solid. With only 2 players, the only hands that would likely call with is a board pair or a drawing hand. Fire another bullet on the turn showing that the K doesnt scare you. Now he has a K w/ a good kicker and a str8 draw, he may call or raise. Either way you gain info. If junk comes on the river, I bet small again. If he raises, I am out.
Sometimes betting out in early position is the cheapest way to see cards. If you slow down, people will almost surely bet behind you.
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