Posted Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:10 pm GMT by zinn0
15+1 on stars. Nothing to fancy to report on either player.
PokerStars Game #3745786503: Tournament #18601296, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/01/24 - 21:07:49 (ET)
Table '18601296 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: PokerFan76 (2245 in chips)
Seat 4: Moleinator (2665 in chips)
Seat 5: FriedPhish (1325 in chips)
Seat 6: The AC Arm (1465 in chips)
Seat 7: zinn0 (2265 in chips)
Seat 8: crisj11 (1055 in chips)
Seat 9: J&J CREW (2480 in chips)
zinn0: posts small blind 50
crisj11: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zinn0  
J&J CREW: raises 100 to 200
PokerFan76: raises 2045 to 2245 and is all-in
Moleinator: folds
FriedPhish: folds
The AC Arm: folds
zinn0
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Posted Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:25 pm GMT by Skribbles
Fold it.
Posted Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:12 pm GMT by jaf625
Absolutely fold it. I think very rarely will you be ahead in this situation, why risk it when you're already doing well. Let them fight it out and then continue on your way.
Posted Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:23 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Fold.
Posted Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:37 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
Fold it and then go kick J&J in the nuts for that stupid min raise.
Posted Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:05 am GMT by UrAteUp
As tempting as big slick can be here, I agree with everyone else when they say fold it. Big slick is not a made hand and thats what you want when you enter a pre-flop all-in.
Posted Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:55 pm GMT by Skribbles
| UrAteUp wrote: | | As tempting as big slick can be here, I agree with everyone else when they say fold it. Big slick is not a made hand and thats what you want when you enter a pre-flop all-in. |
I must disagree with your reasoning here.
If the player who pushed had only 800 chips would that change your mind? While your are correct in saying it is not a made hand, rarely are you going to be worse than a slight dog.
My reason for folding here is that he has plenty of chips and calling this all-in would eliminate him if he loses. No need to take a gamble here.
Posted Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:59 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| UrAteUp wrote: | | Big slick is not a made hand and thats what you want when you enter a pre-flop all-in. |
| Skribbles wrote: | | While your are correct in saying it is not a made hand, rarely are you going to be worse than a slight dog. |
What if villain has AQ...is your AK a made hand now? That "made hand" designation never bothered me before, but it's starting to.
Posted Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:04 pm GMT by Skribbles
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: | | Big slick is not a made hand and thats what you want when you enter a pre-flop all-in. |
| Skribbles wrote: | | While your are correct in saying it is not a made hand, rarely are you going to be worse than a slight dog. |
What if villain has AQ...is your AK a made hand now? That "made hand" designation never bothered me before, but it's starting to. |
This is what I was trying to get at. There are hands which AK dominates but there are also plenty that your are racing with or 2 which you are dominated by. In this particular situation I don't see the point in praying that the guy has AQ- when you have plenty of chips to continue with.
Posted Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:48 pm GMT by TheSalche
You know what, I really feel tempted to say call here. This really feels like this guy has AJ or AQ, possibly KQ and is trying to protect his hand. I don't think a push with AA/KK/QQ makes sense here. The best you're going to be up against is JJ ... when I get back to my room I'll run some numbers (I'll probably have to disregard the first guy).
Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:05 pm GMT by Jauron
| TheSalche wrote: | | You know what, I really feel tempted to say call here. This really feels like this guy has AJ or AQ, possibly KQ and is trying to protect his hand. I don't think a push with AA/KK/QQ makes sense here. The best you're going to be up against is JJ ... when I get back to my room I'll run some numbers (I'll probably have to disregard the first guy). |
Doesn't matter he can flip over JJ and I'll still fold here, it costs me my entire stack to race with him.
Mini-raise or not it's still a raise, re-raise I might be tempted for a second to call if he's got a very small pair, but even then there is no point in flipping a coin for your stack when you've got that much left.
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