Posted Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:31 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I play quite abit of shorthanded games, and this situation will often arise, it folds to sb who either completes or raises and action is now on me in the BB.
It is one of my favorite situations to be in, HU and last to act in all rounds.
What hands will you typically:
A.) Raise with in this situation, if SB only completes
B.) Call a raise with if SB raises (let's assume a standard 3-4xraise in NL)
C.) Re-raise with if SB raises (again let's assume a standard 3-4x in NL)
Let's assume:
1.) A typical 100~BB NL game versus a decent player.
2.) A typical FL game versus a decent player
So basically 6 situations...no need to answer the ones you don't have much experience with if you don't want too.
I'm curious here, and I think have some things to learn.
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Posted Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:46 pm GMT by jaf625
I'm no expert, but I play shorthanded NL games (4-6 players) more than anything else, against somewhat decent players. I do well most of the time.
I'll just answer the NL questions cause thats really the only game I play.
I try to play aggressive when its heads up, thats the way you gotta be right.
A) I raise here with any ace, KQ, KJ, QJ, K10, any pocket pair, middle suited connectors if I think the player is loose and may be calling with anything.
B) Here I will obviously tighten my hand requirements, but will be more inclined to call if I think the raiser will try to steal a lot in this situation.
Any Ace with a 7 or higher, KQ, KJ, QJ, and pocket pairs above a 6 or so. While any pocket pair is strong heads up, I don't play them well when there are over cards on the flop, and I have to assume the raiser has at least one face card, so I throw away the low ones in this situation.
C)Unless I have a strong feeling that this raise is a steal attempt, I will re-raise here only with a premium hand like one would open with a raise at a full table.
I'm sure I have a lot to learn too, does most of this make sense??
Posted Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:23 am GMT by Loonbat
| tame_deuces wrote: | I play quite abit of shorthanded games, and this situation will often arise, it folds to sb who either completes or raises and action is now on me in the BB.
It is one of my favorite situations to be in, HU and last to act in all rounds.
What hands will you typically:
A.) Raise with in this situation, if SB only completes
B.) Call a raise with if SB raises (let's assume a standard 3-4xraise in NL)
C.) Re-raise with if SB raises (again let's assume a standard 3-4x in NL)
Let's assume:
1.) A typical 100~BB NL game versus a decent player.
2.) A typical FL game versus a decent player
So basically 6 situations...no need to answer the ones you don't have much experience with if you don't want too.
I'm curious here, and I think have some things to learn. |
"Decent player" doesn't tell me enough. How often will this decent player raise? Several decent players will pretty much take any two and raise on the SB if the BB isn't defending well.
Posted Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:19 am GMT by tame_deuces
| Loonbat wrote: | | "Decent player" doesn't tell me enough. How often will this decent player raise? Several decent players will pretty much take any two and raise on the SB if the BB isn't defending well. |
True true, its hard to answer in a generic manner. But let's say a type of player you can relate to. Someone you have played against or someone who plays like yourself or something.
Posted Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:27 pm GMT by supafrey
Hrms.. dunno if you want a list of hands I'd do this with (because it changes - like - alot with me) but I have a horrible tendancy to auto-raise with any two connected or high cards outta the BB in fl when it's headsup. Like.. 57s is a raiser.
I figure I can outplay most average hands/players and at the very least spot a trap and check behind. Works pretty well for me. Why not push small edges like this? 
Didn't we already decide that anyone folding a completed blind like... even 20% of the time.. means that the raise is a profitable endeavour?
Posted Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:02 am GMT by golddog
I'm no NL player, so I'll leave that aside. For FL, though, pretty much any two is a call in a raised pot, or a raise if SB calls.
I think the important thing here is to not necessarily classify hands as 'raising' or 'calling', but to mix up the play. You need to limp with strength now and again, and raise with weakness.
Also need to fold to a raise once in a while to show you're not just playing any two. Just not too often.
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make it, mix it up by some other factor than the cards. Play straight up some pretty fair percentage of the time, play "opposite" sometimes, and also decide (I like to do this before the deal) once in a while, "I'm going to raise with any two" or "I'm going to limp with any two".
The reason I like to decide before the deal is it truly randomizes my betting; since I don't know what the cards are, the opponent also can't establish a pattern.
</grain of salt, I'm no expert>
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