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Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:03 am GMT by golfey
i dont mean the junk hand like 7 2
i mean a hand which should be good but nevertheless never does you any favours
my jinx hand is Q J......i tell you when i get this nothing ever comes good from it  and when anything does i seem to always lose alot of chips 
my mate hates pocket 10s.....cus they busted him out of the belfast tourney we entered poor bugga came up against aces
so anyone else have an "unlucky hand"
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Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:09 am GMT by UrAteUp
AKo. Big Slick costs me dearly every time I play it and no matter how I play it. I can raise big with it or limp in and I get burned every time.
QJ is a weak hand at best and should never be played in EP or MP. LP if there is no big raises pre-flop then I will play it. Other then that throw it away most times.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:12 am GMT by ORGrinder
jacks! can't win with em, can't win against em, can't fold em. LOL
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:13 am GMT by golfey
| UrAteUp wrote: | AKo. Big Slick costs me dearly every time I play it and no matter how I play it. I can raise big with it or limp in and I get burned every time.
QJ is a weak hand at best and should never be played in EP or MP. LP if there is no big raises pre-flop then I will play it. Other then that throw it away most times. |
folding queen jack
really?? is that not very tight play
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:19 am GMT by UrAteUp
| golfey wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: | AKo. Big Slick costs me dearly every time I play it and no matter how I play it. I can raise big with it or limp in and I get burned every time.
QJ is a weak hand at best and should never be played in EP or MP. LP if there is no big raises pre-flop then I will play it. Other then that throw it away most times. |
folding queen jack
really?? is that not very tight play |
Golfey do a google search for the top starting hands of poker. Your going to find QJo is low on the list of good starting hands. In a previous post you said you played tight. If your playing QJo in EP or MP your sure not playing a tight game.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:21 am GMT by golfey
| UrAteUp wrote: | | golfey wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: | AKo. Big Slick costs me dearly every time I play it and no matter how I play it. I can raise big with it or limp in and I get burned every time.
QJ is a weak hand at best and should never be played in EP or MP. LP if there is no big raises pre-flop then I will play it. Other then that throw it away most times. |
folding queen jack
really?? is that not very tight play |
Golfey do a google search for the top starting hands of poker. Your going to find QJo is low on the list of good starting hands. In a previous post you said you played tight. If your playing QJo in EP or MP your sure not playing a tight game. |
ok thanks 
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:23 am GMT by Soup_dog
Big slick is a killer for me too. Then queens... then Jacks... then kings... and basically all of the other top ten hands.  Maybe this is why I'm not winning.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:29 am GMT by golfey
looking at hand rankings now i didnt realise K Q was actually that weak
and J 10 suited....that hand has so much potential :D
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:31 am GMT by KingOHearts
Lately my nemesis has been JJ (I see a favorite developing here...)
Had JJ 8 times over the weekend. The flops looked like this:
2 times - zero undercards, still lost one to bad beat flush
1 time - 1 over cards
1 time - 2 over cards
4 times  - 3 overcards, with no good straight draws either.
One of my biggest hands in the last month was JJ though when I flopped a boat and tripled up :D .
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:14 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I have an intense dislike for J2o.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:29 pm GMT by Moon_Child
i would have to say KQ suited. it looks so pretty, but burns me everytime... no to mention i can never hit a flop with that hand...
any others? ummm.... i guess thats all i can think of.
JJ is probably the hardest hand to play in the game for NL holdem. for me anyways.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:23 pm GMT by aaronw
My worst hand is AQ. Everytime I get that hand, I lose a huge pot. I have flopped two pair with it multiple times and always end up losing to a straight or a flush.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:27 pm GMT by age_of_sages
I have two hands that get me in trouble, I absolutely hate when I get them in the blinds, because I just fold them any other time.
The hands are T9o and J7o. If I'm in b with either of these hands, guaranteed I'll catch something juicy enough on the flop to keep me around long enough to lose money.
Another hand that I overrate is JTo, I just have to let it go.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:32 pm GMT by Capone15
I really hate AJ suited. I cannot stand to play that hand
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:11 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
AJ, KJ, and QJ offsuit... hard to make things work with these hands (less so for AJ). I also hate the 2  , because I always seem to lose when it comes out of the deck.
Pocket deuces I don't much care for either.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:25 pm GMT by zinn0
AQ...suited or not.
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:29 pm GMT by PocketFives
Pocket 7's, definitely least favorite hand, I lost my first ever big tournament with them, then played a smaller tournament and had pocket 7's flopped a set and got rivered and lost. im sure you can tell what my favorite hand is 8) 5's
Posted Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:17 pm GMT by snoogins47
68o is both the best, and worst, starting hand in Hold'em.
Posted Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:05 am GMT by Hungry4Knowledge
Queens.... Belive their suppose to be the 3. best starting hand but i still lost 5 out of 7 times the last tours! Think it has something to do with me being very aggresive so i get more calls then the average player..... My queens ussaly gets burned by hands like A-5 - A-10
Posted Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:44 am GMT by rodders
got to be jacks for me, i just know there going to cost me every time i see them. 
Posted Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:56 am GMT by Cyberhwk
Kings!
An ace always, Always, ALWAYS flops on me and I lose to Ace-rag.
Posted Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:50 am GMT by JohnnyCache
i have trouble with things like 6-2 off and 5-9 off and stuff.
Posted Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:33 am GMT by UrAteUp
I can believe some hands people are listing but I can't see how large PP becomes a problem. Easy fix to play the large PP like JJ,QQ and KK is start with a 4-6xBB bet. After the flop if you hit your set and the flop isn't spooky (ie flush draw or straight draw) then slow down and milk it. If it is spooky then push hard here unless it is too spooky (say 3 cards to a straight flush or royal and your not holding any of those needed to complete it).
If you only have the PP after the flop and there is nothing over you then slam it home and take the pot here. Bet out about 1-1 1/2x the pot. If you get flat called then be careful but don't get nervous. In tournaments I often see a donk trying to out push with AX hands when they don't even have a pair.
If a larger card lays on the board after the flop and your wondering if it helps the other player. Go for an information bet of about 1/2 the pot. If he leads after the flop and he beats weak then chances are that card hasn't helped.
If any larger cards hit on the turn or river then go ahead and make an information bet again. If they raise over top then you have to decide is he bluffing or does he have something? If you check it and he checks then your almost assured he doesn't have the hand but if your nervous just check it down. You won't win as big of a pot.
This is how I personally deal with big PP in NL Holdem.
As for AX hands. I often will limp with AX hands early in tournaments. I find it saves me a world of money and when I do win I win much bigger pots because no one puts you on an AX hand. Later in a tournament then I am raising it.
The one hand that does give me a fit is Big Slick. If I hit nothing on the flop then I still feel like I should bet another bet of good size hoping the other players will think I have a good PP in the hole. It seldom works though...lol. That is why the Big one gives me so much trouble.
One thing I have noticed is no one has named AA as a hand that they hate. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone. If your delt AA the best thing to do is push. If someone raised say 3-6xBB before it gets to you then re-raise again and double it. They will usually lay it down right here. If not then you found a good candidate for pin the tail on the donkey.... :D.
Posted Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:10 am GMT by Hungry4Knowledge
Ok... My aces is cracked everytime so i have to change from queens to aces on this one! Three last tourneys on my last hand:
Pocket: A-A I go all in with a small stack (about 10x BB)
I get 2 callers the flop 7-7-9 One of the other players move all in and the second folds. And im heads up, he turns over his cards: 9-9
Pocket: A-A Flop: J-4-3 He bets, i raise all in and he calls and turn over J-Q (this was a loose player) Turn: 3 (his down to 2 outs) River: J
Pocket: A-A Flop: J-J-10 I bet, he raises me all in (not a large amout) I call.... He turns over J-10 Turn: 3 River:2
In all these hands i raised about 4-5x BB and got called by loose players!
I mean it, everytime i see A-A i acctually become worried! What are the odds btw. that i loose 3 times in a row with aces vs. 9-10, J-10 and J-Q Their not huge, thats 4 sure! Now i rather see 2-7o so i can fold with nothing lost!
Posted Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:50 am GMT by BeerWench13
Big slick and AQ. These hands are so overrated. I've lost more money with AK than with any other hand, even aces that get cracked. I am also not a big fan of QQ, but I always push with those preflop so they don't have to hold up but so often because I don't get many calls.
On the flip side, I seem to do extremely well with 66 and 8  10 . I can't explain either hand (although some of my friends do call me Satan  ), but I've cracked aces with 810s 4 times to date. And, no one ever puts me on that hand. I also love JJ. The boys rarely let me down.
Posted Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:52 am GMT by Soup_dog
| BeerWench13 wrote: | Big slick and AQ. These hands are so overrated. I've lost more money with AK than with any other hand, even aces that get cracked. I am also not a big fan of QQ, but I always push with those preflop so they don't have to hold up but so often because I don't get many calls.
On the flip side, I seem to do extremely well with 66 and 8 10 . I can't explain either hand (although some of my friends do call me Satan ), but I've cracked aces with 810s 4 times to date. And, no one ever puts me on that hand. I also love JJ. The boys rarely let me down. |
Oddly enough. according to poker tracker QQ is my most profitable hand.
Posted Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:26 pm GMT by waterman
pocket 4's. every time i hit a set with 4's, someone hits an overset and i can never get away from it.
Posted Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:03 pm GMT by JackKingOff
hmmmmm my most h8ed hand would hafto be AQo nd AJo for that matter, have lost to QK simply by a K hitting river many times and AJ is overrated by far, played way 2 strongly
Posted Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:30 pm GMT by groton
Cowboys followed by Johnys
The Ladys I dont do that bad with.
AK I can normoly lay them down smartly if i dont hit.
but Cowboys and Johnys of the Big Hands i lose the most with.
Posted Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:16 pm GMT by Ewi
My most hated hands are JJ, AQ and AJ. They look good, but they can get you in a lot of trouble. I always find myself rolling my eyes when I get dealt those hands.
My favourite hand is 23s. It never loses! Won many a big pot with those cards :D
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:51 pm GMT by TallBrad
Pocket Kings for me. Doesn't matter how much I raise pre-flop, at least one person calls me. Then, without fail, an ace comes on the flop.
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:31 pm GMT by JackKingOff
lol dats pretty funny over the course of these 2 days ive had KK for at lesat 6-9 times and ive won a good 60% w/ dem
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:08 am GMT by BeerWench13
| Quote: | | Pocket Kings for me. Doesn't matter how much I raise pre-flop, at least one person calls me. Then, without fail, an ace comes on the flop. |
Quoted because I seem to have the same luck. Although, I fire anyway just to make sure they actually have the ace. You never know. I've won a few hands with and ace on the flop and a continuation bet. I think they thought I had the ace to begin with.
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:59 am GMT by TallBrad
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | Quote: | | Pocket Kings for me. Doesn't matter how much I raise pre-flop, at least one person calls me. Then, without fail, an ace comes on the flop. |
Quoted because I seem to have the same luck. Although, I fire anyway just to make sure they actually have the ace. You never know. I've won a few hands with and ace on the flop and a continuation bet. I think they thought I had the ace to begin with. |
I also fire the continuation bet as well. The problem is, some of the jokers I play with, fall in love with the A. They can have an ace and a rag and will still call the large pre-flop raise. Then the A hits the flop. Every great once in a while they don't have it and fold.
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:19 am GMT by BeerWench13
| Quote: | | The problem is, some of the jokers I play with, fall in love with the A. They can have an ace and a rag and will still call the large pre-flop raise. |
Yes, this happens to me often enough too. However, I don't play a great deal of hands, much less raise a lot preflop, so most of them put me on an A with one hell of a kicker when I fire. But, then again, there are those schmoes who will call with A3, flop A 4 5 and stick around hoping they can catch their gutshot. These guys usually pay. As long as they don't hit their straight by the river, I can make them fold thinking they're outkicked.**
**Disclaimer: This is nowhere near 100% successful. There are donks at nearly every table who will call it down because they have top pair. I don't think they are even aware that a kicker comes into play, or, possibly, what a kicker is. 
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:44 pm GMT by TallBrad
| BeerWench13 wrote: | But, then again, there are those schmoes who will call with A3, flop A 4 5 and stick around hoping they can catch their gutshot. These guys usually pay. As long as they don't hit their straight by the river, I can make them fold thinking they're outkicked.**
**Disclaimer: This is nowhere near 100% successful. There are donks at nearly every table who will call it down because they have top pair. I don't think they are even aware that a kicker comes into play, or, possibly, what a kicker is. |
Exactly, I usually make them pay, it just seems the A only comes more often on the flop when I have kings, hence why I hate kings
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