Shouldn't Have Checked it down, should I? |
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Posted Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:22 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
PokerStars Game #3916645164: Tournament #19459391, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/02/09 - 18:19:44 (ET)
Table '19459391 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Turn_Prophet (1775 in chips)
Seat 3: r0cb0y (1475 in chips)
Seat 4: Keeper0BC (2335 in chips)
Seat 5: alli2132 (2150 in chips)
Seat 6: blownboo (465 in chips)
Seat 8: ilden06 (3950 in chips)
Seat 9: pastorsteve (1350 in chips)
Keeper0BC: posts small blind 25
alli2132: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet  
blownboo: raises 415 to 465 and is all-in
ilden06: calls 465
pastorsteve: folds
Turn_Prophet: calls 465
r0cb0y: folds
Keeper0BC: folds
alli2132: folds
*** FLOP ***   
ilden06: checks
Turn_Prophet: checks
*** TURN *** 
ilden06: checks
Turn_Prophet: checks
*** RIVER *** 
ilden06: checks
Turn_Prophet: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
blownboo: shows   (high card King)
ilden06: shows   (a pair of Kings)
Turn_Prophet: mucks hand
blownboo is sitting out
ilden06 collected 1470 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1470 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: Turn_Prophet mucked
Seat 3: r0cb0y (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Keeper0BC (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: alli2132 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: blownboo showed and lost with high card King
Seat 8: ilden06 showed and won (1470) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: pastorsteve folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Posted Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:31 pm GMT by zinn0
I think with 7 people still at the table, it is a little early to be checking it down. With an overpair to the board, I want to defend my hand after the flop here.
Posted Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:09 pm GMT by Phil14312
I bet the flop, you probably have the best hand here and if you can't beat the original raiser's hand, the othery guy probably won't catch up either.
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:20 am GMT by Muck
I’d be tempted to push pre-flop to try and isolate, although with a big stack already calling from an earlier position I’d be a bit scared. I’ve been reading Harrington Vol 2 recently and it seems to be making me a bit over aggressive, I need to remind myself to check the blinds and remember that I don’t need to make moves yet.
I’m not sure about the pre-flop call but on the flop I’m defiantly pushing. With no overcards and a 1545 pot.
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:06 am GMT by snoogins47
I'm with Muck. Push preflop, or push the flop. I think that pushing preflop is the best course of action here, but given the flat call and that flop, shove, shove shove!
Edit: More specifically, "checking it down" to knock somebody out is often the way to go, but it tends to apply in situations where you benefit MORE from knocking somebody out, than winning the pot. With the pot containing that many chips, and your hand being good, but vulnerable, you have to be more concerned with putting those chips into YOUR hands, not just keeping them away from the shortie.
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:05 am GMT by Dave B
I am OK w/ the call preflop. The big stack has enough chips to make a loose call w/ 2 overcards (even crap like A10 KJ)-so I fear him a bit. But on that flop, I am ready to go broke with an overpair. I might bet 1/3 of my remaining chips or just move all in on the flop.
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:27 pm GMT by golddog
Definitely bet post-flop. Exactly what snoogins said; losing 1/7 of the field (which likely happens anyway) is less important than you getting those chips.
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