Is online poker gonna be forbidden in the us? |
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Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:43 am GMT by pokerpro_22
I found this news on the Internet.
Here's what is says :
Internet gaming groups with a majority of their customers in the United States saw their shares plummet yesterday as word leaked that American legislators are preparing to introduce a "prohibition bill" aimed at outlawing the online gambling industry. According to reports, Virginia Republican Bob Goodlatte will reintroduce a bill this week with the intention of amending existing legislation to explicitly prohibit the online gaming industry from operating in the United States.
Currently, Internet gambling firms are not allowed to operate in the United States, and base their operations in offshore locales in order to bypass laws and access American gamers. U.S. authorities have thus far failed to stop an estimated 8 million American gamblers from wagering and playing on the sites, however, the rumored legislation could give law enforcement officials the authority to stop payments made by Americans to the offshore firms using credit cards, wire services, and other banking mechanisms.
Previous efforts by Goodlatte to pass legislation banning online gaming have stopped short of gaining the necessary support in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, largely due to the efforts of Jack Abramoff, a former Republican lobbyist who worked as an advisor to technology firm eLottery. However, a recent bribery scandal involving Abramoff, who has pleaded guilty to fraud, has reignited support in favor of prohibiting Internet gaming in the country, and has sparked fears among Internet gaming firms that new initiatives could gain widespread support.
The industry is hoping U.S. casino groups come out in favor of online gambling in the hopes of launching their own Internet ventures in the future, although there is no indication the Vegas-based casino giants have any interest in supporting the legalization of Internet gaming or of becoming involved in the multi-billion dollar industry behind it.
PartyGaming, owner of PartyPoker.com, and 888, owner of Pacific Poker, took the biggest hits on the London Stock Exchange, followed closely by Sportingbet. All three firms dropped between 4 and 5 percent in value.
Any comments? Anyone knows anything about this?
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Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:48 am GMT by Muck
EDIT:
This would also have been better off going in the “gambling law” sub forum. But since you removed the link to the proxy site I’ll assume you were acting in good faith and remove my accusation.
Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:01 am GMT by Muck
Wasn’t this tried before? The government asked the credit card companies to try and help enforce the current on-line gambling ban. But it all fell apart because 3rd parties like PayPal just stepped in to act as a remote 3rd party to hand the cash to the sites.
Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:10 am GMT by pokerpro_22
I was acting in good faith.. just indicating where i found the news in case people wanted to know. I dont care about the link.. Didn't spot the other subforum sorry about that.
Anyway I never heard of what you just described, but I guess we'll find out soon enough since the bill is to be reintroduced this week. Should that act be adopted, that would be an earthquake..
Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:18 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Screw the government and I hope GW Bush is tapping this now and reads it. If the US government bans internet poker altogether then I will be an outlaw. It should be our right in the US to play online poker if we want to. It isn't like we are hurting anyone. If they don't like it or just want tax revenue from it then they should legalize it here and let big companies who have expressed interest to start gaming sites in the US do so.
Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:39 pm GMT by Fat Tony
| pokerpro_22 wrote: | | I was acting in good faith.. just indicating where i found the news in case people wanted to know. I dont care about the link.. Didn't spot the other subforum sorry about that. |
I haved moved it so no problem. It is actually proper to credit a source if you copy/paste stuff from other sites so if that's what you had done originally, that is perfectly fine. You don't need to post a link, but if you copied/pasted something from say cnn.com you could just say after the article, "c/p from cnn.com"
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:45 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
They've tried this several times, pretty much every year, and it fails every time...Carson was just talking about this last night saying it was introduced about a week ago...
imho, prior to this, from what i understood before this turned into a gaming specific story, was that he lobbied for indian res casinos, which is kinda seperate from online gaming....the only backlash i would imagine is politicians wanting to distance themselves from him, rather than 'oh crap, he's not giving them money, so now they'll ban online gaming'....but then again, i dont think most americans pay enough attention for it to even matter atall in actual voting terms...i think a bigger influence would be lobbyists for the big tv networks who get all that advertising revenue from party...i'm sure every year it gets bigger and bigger, thus giving their lobbyists more and more weight in dc...
in the past some southern state's attorney general (i could be wrong here, but it was some govt official) told big companies like google, yahoo, ebay(paypal owners), and maybe some old media companies (tv, radio, newspaper), and banking institutions like visa, mastercard, that wut they're doing could someday be ruled illegal, so they should jump ship now before they get prosecuted....so they did....basically bow to intimidation....so now we have smaller middlemen like neteller and firepay who have nothing to lose
thats my understanding anyways, i havent done extensive research or anything
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:43 pm GMT by groton
| Sid Lambert wrote: | in the past some southern state's attorney general (i could be wrong here, but it was some govt official) told big companies like google, yahoo, ebay(paypal owners), and maybe some old media companies (tv, radio, newspaper), and banking institutions like visa, mastercard, that wut they're doing could someday be ruled illegal, so they should jump ship now before they get prosecuted....so they did....basically bow to intimidation....so now we have smaller middlemen like neteller and firepay who have nothing to lose
thats my understanding anyways, i havent done extensive research or anything |
I know that Richerd Blumenthoal the AG from CT.
Has said that in the past he even had some of the Horse Betting sites that are ran from America to stop taking bets from The Nutmeg state.
which sucks since we dont have many OTB's to bet from to start with,.
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