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Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:46 pm GMT by Ciso_B
PokerStars Game #3997616772: Tournament #19613656, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/02/16 - 22:41:07 (ET)
Table '19613656 30' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Muggrudd (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: pumkinman (840 in chips)
Seat 3: Peddicom (2260 in chips)
Seat 4: xXHAASXx (1400 in chips)
Seat 5: Neab (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: founthead (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Mr.WSOP (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: huber14 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: blushboy (1500 in chips)
xXHAASXx: posts small blind 10
Neab: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab  
founthead: folds
Mr.WSOP: folds
huber14: calls 20
blushboy: folds
Muggrudd: calls 20
pumkinman: folds
Peddicom: folds
xXHAASXx: folds
Neab: checks
*** FLOP ***   
Neab: checks
huber14: checks
Muggrudd: checks
*** TURN *** 
Neab: checks
huber14: checks
Muggrudd: bets 40
Neab: raises 70 to 110
huber14: folds
Muggrudd: raises 330 to 440
Neab: raises 1040 to 1480 and is all-in
Muggrudd: calls 1040 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** 
Neab said, "gees"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Neab: shows (two pair, Aces and Eights)
Muggrudd: shows   (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Muggrudd collected 3030 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3030 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: Muggrudd showed and won (3030) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 2: pumkinman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Peddicom (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: xXHAASXx (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Neab (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 6: founthead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Mr.WSOP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: huber14 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: blushboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I know this is like the 2nd hand of a tourney, maybe i could have just called the re raise. But the only hand i thought he could have that would beat me was 33, thought he may have even limped with Q8 and caught 2 pair on the turn. Anyone folding this or maybe just call and check/call the river?
I know its 2
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Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:39 am GMT by tame_deuces
Hard to say since you posted the results. I mean...I know you were beat now. :D
But 2nd hand in its a tough fold unless you've played with the guy before. Could just be a loose gun, could be a tightie. Who knows.
Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:57 am GMT by Montrealer
Guy raises 330 into a 180 pot second hand of a tourney with any kind of hand possible due to the lack of preflop action that can beat me. I'd have been afraid of 88 or 33 more than AQ, but I'd have been afraid enough.
I fold it.
Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:29 am GMT by greathuskie
sorry to say montrealer, youre lying
i can damn near gaurantee everyone at this board calls
especialy in the 2nd hand of a tourney when i have a very good hand, im looking to double up here, not fold and play the shortstack for hte rest of the tourney
Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:49 am GMT by Muck
Looks fine. I’m going out on this hand too.
- You’re on the BB so he could put you on garbage.
- He might be making a move with something like KQ, QJ or even JsTs
- He might have an AJ-AT and figure he’s ahead to your Queen.
- If this is a low stakes game he could have something insane.
- You still have a full house and nut flush draw.
Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:11 am GMT by UrAteUp
Ok two things here.
First, this is why I hate playing A-rag hands. If someone has a dominate kicker your screwed. In this case your paired your kicker which makes it very hard to lay this hand down. Problem there is the other player paired their kicker as well.
Second, The only way I could even think to see you getting out of this hand a winner would be all-in after the flop. Hopefully the other person would put you on TPTK or two pair and lay it down.
Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:02 pm GMT by Montrealer
| greathuskie wrote: | sorry to say montrealer, youre lying
i can damn near gaurantee everyone at this board calls
especialy in the 2nd hand of a tourney when i have a very good hand, im looking to double up here, not fold and play the shortstack for hte rest of the tourney |
I'm not lying, I've just gotten burned with two pair over the past few weeks enough that I don't think I'm golden with it anymore.
I mean, if you think shortstacked is T1370 when you start with T1500, then I guess you should move all-in; I'd disagree.
Now, I'm not faulting the guy on his play; I would have done the same thing a month ago. Then again, maybe I'd do the same thing if I were actually in the situation; I'm just pointing out that it's not an automatic all-in situation; far from it.
Posted Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:31 pm GMT by Johny
I make the call, his bet looks too big for a set, and it's hard to put him on a better hand then yours since he limped. I doubt many people make this laydown.
I think flat-calling the re-raise on the turn is a bad idea, I don't see how can fold on the river and it's not a hand to slowplay after that action.
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