Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:43 pm GMT by KingOHearts
***** Hand History for Game 3593798693 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, February 20, 22:22:32 ET 2006
Table Cello (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: BobBriody ( $13.11 )
Seat 2: Secret_Eye ( $26.90 )
Seat 3: BeyadJudgmnt ( $9.02 )
Seat 4: nidan2001 ( $15.75 )
Seat 5: MChuzzlewit ( $29.70 )
Seat 10: DiamondDog37 ( $26.20 )
Seat 8: ADK_Rick ( $26.95 )
Seat 7: flattieburns ( $15.90 )
Seat 9: weazle333 ( $24.85 )
Seat 6: HOTTADDEY ( $12.73 )
weazle333 posts small blind $0.10.
DiamondDog37 posts big blind $0.25.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ADK_Rick J A
BobBriody folds.Secret_Eye folds.nidan2001 folds.MChuzzlewit folds.
HOTTADDEY calls $0.25.
ADK_Rick raises $0.75.
weazle333 folds. DiamondDog37 folds.
HOTTADDEY calls $0.50.
** Dealing Flop ** 8 K 3
HOTTADDEY checks.
ADK_Rick? (Pot = $1.85)
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Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:47 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Bet.
Or to elaborate.
That is an excellent flop for you. A big scarecard and a killer draw.
If your opponent has a part of the flop or a low pair he might fold to a bet here, which is probably preferable to having hit our flush.
A timid opponent might even fold a weak king.
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:55 pm GMT by KingOHearts
ADK_Rick bets $1.00.
HOTTADDEY calls $1.00
** Dealing Turn ** 5
I hold A J flop was 8 K 3
HOTTADDEY bets $0.95.
ADK_Rick ? Pot is $4.75
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:56 pm GMT by zinn0
Aside from pairing one of your cards, this is probably the best flop you could get. Make a standard bet of 1/2 to 3/4 of the pot.
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:16 pm GMT by KingOHearts
| zinn0 wrote: | | Aside from pairing one of your cards, this is probably the best flop you could get. Make a standard bet of 1/2 to 3/4 of the pot. |
OK, so after the turn I have the nut flush...what now?
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:20 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| KingOHearts wrote: | ADK_Rick bets $1.00.
HOTTADDEY calls $1.00
** Dealing Turn ** 5
I hold A J flop was 8 K 3
HOTTADDEY bets $0.95.
ADK_Rick ? Pot is $4.75 |
You got a couple of choices here:
1. You got position, so you can call and see if you can induce a bigger river bet. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that...you bet the flop and then got weaker as the third spade fell...your opponent shouldn't see this as suspicious. If will get very suspicious when you raise the river though.
2. Your opponent is claiming to have something, push your money in there. You should be called by a large amount of different hands at these stakes. This will put your opponent to a large decision, but you will be surprised at how many calls you can actually get.
3. You can simply raise it. And hope your opponent pushes back.
Basically, for me this is player dependant. Versus a lag I like number one, because he can be bluffing alot here.
Versus an unimaginative player I like number two, he is claiming to have a hand. Maybe he likes it enough to take it to showdown.
Versus a calling station I like number 3, he might call a large amount of weird hands that he might fold to a push, and then he might then call an even larger bet on the river. (even a push maybe...calling stations don't think too far).
If he seems somewhat decent, he might just be checking if his king is good. So thread lightly.
As a default versus an unknown I raise here though.
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:25 pm GMT by KingOHearts
OK, I went for #1 on this benign looking board...
ADK_Rick calls $0.95.
** Dealing River ** 8
HOTTADDEY checks. Pot is $5.70
ADK_Rick?
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:33 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Probably killed all your action.
And the board paired. So with max unluck your opponent boated.
You won't be called with alot of hands here, your opponent will have to have either the Q or the J for you to earn a few big blinds. Just check it.
Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:40 pm GMT by KingOHearts
So right you are. This is where it went off the tracks for our hero who donked this one up pretty badly.
ADK_Rick bets $5.
HOTTADDEY is all-In $10.28
ADK_Rick calls $5.28.
ADK_Rick shows J A a flush, ace high.
HOTTADDEY shows 5 5 a full house, Fives full of eights.
HOTTADDEY wins $24.56 from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of eights.
Memo to self...stop trying to be cute. Basically, I had only played a few hands at this table and had observed the villian to be, well, not so good. Tis why I made the call. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:53 am GMT by Dat_Dude
| KingOHearts wrote: | So right you are. This is where it went off the tracks for our hero who donked this one up pretty badly.
ADK_Rick bets $5.
HOTTADDEY is all-In $10.28
ADK_Rick calls $5.28.
ADK_Rick shows J A a flush, ace high.
HOTTADDEY shows 5 5 a full house, Fives full of eights.
HOTTADDEY wins $24.56 from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of eights.
Memo to self...stop trying to be cute. Basically, I had only played a few hands at this table and had observed the villian to be, well, not so good. Tis why I made the call. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. |
I call that bet any day of the week. You don't know if that gave him a flush with the Q and was betting on that. The only thing I might have done different was to try and pick the pot up on the flop with a pot sized bet, but I wonder if an extra buck would have chased him away. Tough hand!
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:08 am GMT by tame_deuces
As a 'default' in this hand, I bet a standard continuation bet on the flop and raise/push turn (push is depending on stacksizes, and I'm also referring to putting my opponent all in, alot of people play short on these stakes). Don't get into the habit of keeping the pot low when you got the goods, that's when you want to build it. That slowplaying stuff is usually crap.
As played, ofcourse you call the river. :D
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:24 am GMT by kingetje
Something sour like this happened to me the other day.. nut flush draw on the flop... on the turn i catched my flush... i make some nice moves to make the other guy put all his money in the pot which worked out bueatifully, but of course on the river the board paired up... his full house
Posted Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:40 pm GMT by BeerWench13
Well, I wanted to read the posts before I got the results, but I read too far before replying. I agree with Tame bet on the flop A 2/3-3/4 pot bet is in order.
On the turn, I would've reraised hoping he had a smaller flush and would still call. If not, he'll fold and I take the pot down when I have the best hand. Odds are, though, he would've called having hit his set. It's just a tough hand to play. I can't fault your play at all. Given your read on your opponent, your call on the turn was an excellent "slowplay/suck-him-in" maneuver. He just happened to hit on the river. Tough hand for you. I would've called his bet on the river as well, putting him on a lower spade like the Q or possibly a 10.
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