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when to give up?



Posted Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:23 pm GMT by jaywood
First off hello to all, I'm new to the board. I am originally a 7 card stud player but now play a lot of hold em poker (since that's the rage nowadays). I have been focusing on hold em for about 3 years now. I have done fairly well winning a decent amount of tournaments...until lately.

I feel a bit like Daniel Negreanu lately, having a horrible run of cards. I can't win for losing. I have the right reads, play the odds and have good instinct to dodge bullets. Let me give a brief overview my last 3 games.

1. Doing well in a tourney, 3 out of the money. Blinds are high. Just me and the big blind in the hand. Big blind calls my all in for the rest of my small stack. I have him beat with a suited K 10. He has unsuited Q 5. He looks at me and says "you have me beat". The flop comes Q Q J, the turn is a 9, the river a J. Knocks me out with a full house.

2. Half way through a tourney I read this guy spot on. I knew he only had bottom pair. I had top pair (after the flop) with an ace kicker. I go all in, he calls, only to get runners to give him quads...i'm out again.

3. Caught this guy on a bluff 7 5, I call (pre flop) putting me all in with a suited A J spades...he flops a strait...out once again.

So my question is...when do you just give up and get a new hobby? I love poker but getting my ass kicked for the past 5 months is getting old.


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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:11 pm GMT by Icec0o1
The game definately has its highs and lows...I think you don't need to get rid of it, just put it on the back burner; don't have it as your primary hobby.

All bad runs end, and so do all the good runs.



Posted Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:34 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Sorry to hear your having such tough luck. My suggestion is dropping in the levels your playing at. If your playing at $5 SNGs now drop to something lower so variance isn't killing you so bad.

Also I notice in several cases your talking about being low in chips. Go over those hand histories and see why your loosing so many chips before the bubble bursts. Often you can spot holes in your game. These can and will include hands you shouldn't even be involved in, places where a raise pre-flop was warranted and might have gotten the winning hand to lay down pre-flop and other problems such as these.

All else fails go to the books and online resources. You can never become good at something till you work at it.



Posted Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:49 pm GMT by jaywood
thanks for the tips. i constantly improve my game. i usually out last 80% of the competition...and that's with horrible cards! i see maybe 5 good hands in 100. I rarely see pocket pairs of any calibre and i rarely get a single over. now keep in mind i have taken about 40, 300+ people tournaments. it just seems the cards are not in my favor lately.

i only get in the top percentage by playing position, bluffing, trapping and playinmg hard at the right time and making the most of when i DO get hands.

i know the game has it's ups and downs, i just was wondering when the "cut off" time is!

thanks for the replies.






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