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$10 9 Seat SNG hand - call?



Posted Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:59 pm GMT by jonesyb
$10 - NL - 9 Seats blinds: 50/100

Seat 3 : MartinKing has $7,610 - big blind
Seat 4 : jonesyb has $2,690
Seat 5 : hazedsurfer has $2,450
Seat 6 : gazz9 has $3,990 - dealer
Seat 8 : knacky has $1,260 - small blind

jonesyb has 8h 8d
raised 350

hazedsurfer folded
gazz9 folded
knacky called 300,
MartinKing folded.

Board cards Six of SpadesFour of SpadesAce of Diamonds

knacky bet 910 and is All-in

my move?


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Posted Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:01 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Lay it down. My thinking is he has a hand or he wouldn't have called thaty raise. Hands calling raises like that usually contain an A or PP. Easy lay down here.


Posted Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:02 pm GMT by Soup_dog
crud. without a read on the guy, I would fold.


Posted Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:05 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
If he had an A or a pair, I think he would've pushed preflop.

I call and hope he doesn't make his flush.



Posted Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:20 pm GMT by kao85
I think he has a higher pocket pair (or does that only happen to me hmmm) anyway I would have to fold here Confused


Posted Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by jonesyb
i did fold. thanks for your comments.


Posted Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:54 am GMT by nknowles
he could have called the raise planning to bet the flop no matter wat, especially the A is a scare card. But a fold would be in order!


Posted Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:46 am GMT by zinn0
I dunno...I think I'm with Sean here. Why would he push? He is probably pretty certain our hero is going to bet the flop no matter what. A prime spot for a check raise from the Villain if he holds an Ace. I also call and hope he misses his flush.


Posted Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:35 am GMT by Dat_Dude
I would call here. I am with Sean and zinn....if he had any hand that beats you, he would have gotten his money in preflop. I don't know how he plays, but if he had an A, he would have either folded if it were a weak one, or pushed if it were a mediocre to strong Ace.

He is playing the Stop-N-Go, which typically means middle pocket pair.



Posted Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:26 pm GMT by BeerWench13
My impression is that he does not want a call here. I say he's on a draw or has a PP as well. I'd probably call. If he had a hand he'd value bet it to extract what he could out of you.......unless he's using the dreaded overbet technique.


Posted Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:58 pm GMT by UrAteUp
In an SNG I wouldn't gamble too much in this situation. Jonesy is still in good enough shape to finish ITM provided he makes no major errors and can catch some good hands and cards later.

This hand screams to me Ax, 99 or 1010.



Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:06 pm GMT by mrcfkane
tough play.......i say fold, you dont have a good enough read on him. cant afford a misread either


Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:43 pm GMT by Phil14312
UrAteUp wrote:
In an SNG I wouldn't gamble too much in this situation. Jonesy is still in good enough shape to finish ITM provided he makes no major errors and can catch some good hands and cards later.

This hand screams to me Ax, 99 or 1010.


99 or TT would push preflop. Ax would either push or fold preflop. Any ace is an easy c/r here. I call and pray for no spades as well.



Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:53 am GMT by AHBrownell
Well you have to consider that he only has 910 left with a pot of more than 700. He could have a hand like AK and be betting to protect too. Seeing as a bet of 400 pretty much pot commits him - I think pushing is not unreasonable.

Plus you cannot beat plenty of other hands; KK-99 in pairs and ANY ace.

Another thought is he hit a set and puts u on a hand like AK and figures if he goes all-in he might get called. But it seems like a better play would have been to bet 1/3 the pot to get u to raise him.

This is actually an interesting situation - I kinda wished you called just so we know which the correct play was. Razz



Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:55 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I think I'd call. Given the pot size plus his desperation, I think we're looking at a hand like KJ here, although it is POSSIBLE he has an Ace. But I'm with the others. With a PP or an Ace, I don't see why he'd want to take a flop at all.


Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:38 pm GMT by Icec0o1
Phil14312 wrote:
UrAteUp wrote:
In an SNG I wouldn't gamble too much in this situation. Jonesy is still in good enough shape to finish ITM provided he makes no major errors and can catch some good hands and cards later.

This hand screams to me Ax, 99 or 1010.


99 or TT would push preflop. Ax would either push or fold preflop. Any ace is an easy c/r here. I call and pray for no spades as well.


You presume that your oponent will play like you would play that hand...plenty of players who would do the exact opposite of what you stated here!



Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:40 pm GMT by Icec0o1
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
I think I'd call. Given the pot size plus his desperation, I think we're looking at a hand like KJ here, although it is POSSIBLE he has an Ace. But I'm with the others. With a PP or an Ace, I don't see why he'd want to take a flop at all.


Don't make the mistake of putting people at your level...they'll want to take a flop because they don't know better



Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:41 pm GMT by Icec0o1
Personally I'd put him on A4 and a person who doesn't slowplay because he's afraid of bad beats plus people pay him off usually anyways





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