Posted Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:44 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Ok, this was on 100NL 6-max on Party (looking for hand history, will try to post it). I'm on the button with about $142 in my stack.
Players 1-3 fold. I raise to $3.50 with J  6 (don't give me any grief about this please, as this is a short-handed table, and I'm on the button... I'm interested in my post-flop play, so don't just reply "fold pre-flop" please). SB folds, BB calls. (Pot = $8)
Flop comes 6  3  2
BB checks, I bet $7. BB calls. (Pot = $21 after rake approx.)
Turn comes A
BB checks, I check.
River is the J 
BB checks, I bet $12 (pot = $33), BB raises $22 more to $34 (pot = $67), and I put the other guy in for $40 more on top of his bet (Pot = $129, $40 all-in for him to call).
Good play?
Results to follow...
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Posted Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:59 pm GMT by Skribbles
With the stack sizes, I like it. If he was alot deeper I would take the easy way out and just call his river check/raise.
I think you played it well and I really like the check behind on the turn.
Posted Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:29 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Thanks for the review Skribbles. I appreciate it.
Anyone else?
Posted Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:23 am GMT by kingetje
i would have bet the turn there probably, although it could be a mistake... but if in such a situation the opponent shows weakness by check/calling then checking again on the turn, and i had top pair on the flop i doubt i could see a way of me letting him see another card for free. there is of course the risk he has the ace and is waiting for you to bet, but so be it...
results please!
Posted Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:59 am GMT by Jauron
Very strange check raise on the river, after the check on the turn. You should be able to rule out 45 or the flopped set because of this if the player is any good.
I like the move, not many hands can check both the turn and the river looking to trap, too risky that you won't bet again after you checked the turn.
Aces up or even more unlikely Pocket Jacks could play it this way, don't see the point though.
I'd think you were ahead and I like the play, most of the time you are.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:26 am GMT by 1988 TR
Really depends on the player your up against.
A good player has you beat here. Generally, I wouldn't reraise the river.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:59 am GMT by supafrey
Yeah I'd just call down and snicker at his AK or something.
No need to get aggro here.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:19 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Cool, thanks for the info guys. And now the conclusion...
Villain waits a few seconds after my raise, which tells me I'm in good shape. Finally, he calls with A 4 , and I get treated to a tirade about what a donkey I am for playing J6. 
Yeah, maybe I should have just called the river, but I had a strong suspicion he was hoping to check-raise on the turn and was now betting a naked ace. I must say, it was smart of him to realize that if he checked the turn and the river, I would have bet regardless... I'll give him credit for that.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:27 am GMT by Skribbles
| kingetje wrote: | | i would have bet the turn there probably, although it could be a mistake... |
The reason I like the check on the turn is to keep the pot small. A pair of sixes is not a strong hand so getting to a cheap showdown is best IMO. If the villian checks raises the turn, its a must fold. Checking behind on the turn gives us a free look at the river in hopes of making trips or two pair. Also, Villiain will lead the river a good majority of the time as betting the flop / checking the turn looks very weak on our part, not in this case of course.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:32 pm GMT by golddog
First, you're not allowed to say, "Don't say fold pre-flop" if that was, in fact, the right play. That being said, I like the raise, kind of a blind steal with a hand that has some chance of getting there.
It's easy for me now, seeing the results, but I think I have to agree with the others. I think with the re-raise, and no pre-flop raise, he's not on just a strong ace.
I don't think the push is a bad play, though. Checking the turn, you're telling him that you're worried about the Ace, and he's sure not going to think the Jack helped you any, I don't imagine. He's probably got you on KK/QQ. I could see someone with AT making that kind of play.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:42 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I'll chime in and agree I can't see what is wrong with the preflop play at all. Your basically raising your position and it is down to three hands with the folds before you. I'll actually go as far as saying that not raising here is bad play - unless some metagame factors come into play, as for example you have been stealing like a maniac the last 6 times and villains are getting aggro or something along those lines.
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:07 pm GMT by supafrey
Tame did you just copy my use of the word aggro?
You've never said that before =)
Posted Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:18 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| supafrey wrote: | Tame did you just copy my use of the word aggro?
You've never said that before =) |
Could very well be, I have this habit of picking up new words without noticing. 
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