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how i could have palyed this better?



Posted Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:39 am GMT by greathuskie
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PokerStars Game #4429426623: Tournament #22025762, Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2006/03/27 - 04:29:56 (ET)
Table '22025762 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ant22 (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: tsiguy96 (1580 in chips)
tsiguy96: posts small blind 10
ant22: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tsiguy96 Nine of DiamondsJack of Diamonds
tsiguy96: raises 20 to 40
ant22: raises 20 to 60
tsiguy96: calls 20
*** FLOP *** Seven of SpadesKing of DiamondsThree of Diamonds
ant22: bets 120
tsiguy96: calls 120
*** TURN *** Seven of SpadesKing of DiamondsThree of Diamonds Nine of Clubs
ant22: bets 220
tsiguy96: calls 220
*** RIVER *** Seven of SpadesKing of DiamondsThree of DiamondsNine of Clubs Ten of Clubs
ant22: bets 1020 and is all-in
tsiguy96: calls 1020
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ant22: shows Six of SpadesEight of Spades (a straight, Six to Ten)
tsiguy96: shows Nine of DiamondsJack of Diamonds (a pair of Nines)
ant22 collected 2840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2840 | Rake 0
Board Seven of SpadesKing of DiamondsThree of DiamondsNine of ClubsTen of Clubs
Seat 1: ant22 (big blind) showed Six of SpadesEight of Spades and won (2840) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 2: tsiguy96 (button) (small blind) showed Nine of DiamondsJack of Diamonds and lost with a pair of Nines

should i have raised the turn? i was scared of the king
this is not a bad beat post because tis partially my fault for playing so weak and letting him catch on his terms, i just want to know how i could have played it better


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Posted Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:47 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Edit: never mind. I would probably raise the turn if you thought you were good. If you were really that scared of the King you should have folded before.


Posted Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:04 pm GMT by snoogins47
Well, I don't see the point in the min-raise preflop. But oh well, whatever. The way to play this better, generally, is to put in a raise at some point in the hand, if not the flop, then probably the turn. But of course, deeper-stacked heads-up hands are quite possibly the worst possible for anonymous online analysis, so it's very hard to say.


Posted Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:07 pm GMT by nknowles
since u were out of position before the flop, i wouldnt min raise there, there is no purpose, if u want to represent strength, raise it to 200 i would. But honeslty i would have just called the 20 to see a flop, since i dont like playing out of position especially with mid pairs. And i would have bet the at flop to see where i was, a good pot size bet, and if he raises u, i can always dump the hand right there since ur at such an early level. But in this case, ya raising the turn i would have pushed all in, no way he could call u, unless hes got a king.


Posted Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:01 am GMT by UrAteUp
I agree with those who said raise more pre-flop. Honestly if it was me and I saw that flop I would have raised heavy after the flop. When he fired for 120 I would have made it 400. My thinking is I have a four flush and if nothing else I am making him think I have TPTK or I have 2 pair. Either way that draw was good at that point and a raise like that should have gotten him off that pot..ie the semi bluff.... Smile


Posted Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:21 pm GMT by ComedyBee
I dont see the point in calling the raise at all. I reckon you got yourself into trouble here by playing a hand you shouldn't have.


Posted Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:35 pm GMT by greathuskie
comedybee, have you ever played a heads up match before?


Posted Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:54 pm GMT by ComedyBee
Oh sorry, i only read it very briefly and didn't realise it was heads up, my bad Smile


Posted Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:59 pm GMT by ScanX
raise more preflop...not to 200 like nknowless said, that would be ridiculous. 80 - 90 would be more appropriate.

raise the flop...it could at least give you a free card on turn.

I wouldnt call the river, u still had plenty of chips and the opponent had shown strength on every round.



Posted Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:01 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
I'm just curious, not knocking the play, but what do you hope to accomplish with a min raise PF? I see people min raise PF all the time and it just drives me crazy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's pointless. Confused


Posted Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:17 am GMT by BeerWench13
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what do you hope to accomplish with a min raise PF? I see people min raise PF all the time and it just drives me crazy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's pointless.

The only thing I can see this play doing is building a little bit of a bigger pot. I don't think it's a good play, personally, but most players aren't going to fold to a minimum raise so you've just doubled the pot preflop.



Posted Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:46 pm GMT by jimmer
I am really bad at playing heads up and therefore admit my advice may not be the best in the world.

However, when they re-raise, you need to consider the hands that could beat yours. In this case there's.....................................................................................................................................................well there's??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????........loads! I mean.......LOADS! Surely this is the time to re-raise big time or fold????

As I said though, I'm rubbish at heads up so i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong.






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