Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Alright folks, I wanna hear what you think.
I was watching WSOP on TSN, and they had some interviews going on the side. The results were split down the middle. Half of the players said game, other half said sport. I don't remember too many specific details but Helmuth was saying that you have to be arogant to only see it as a game. Another pro said "If you can drink a beer while playing it, it's not a sport." Personally I beleive that playing it as a profession, it can be considered a sport, otherwise, game.
What do you think? 8)
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Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:46 pm GMT by supafrey
People that say it's a sport are deluding themselves.
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:49 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
They said it best on the WSOP cast...
"Poker is not a sport; sports are athletic."
"If you can drink a beer while performing the activity, it's not a sport."
It can still be a great game without being a sport. Chess, Backgammon, Risk, Monopoly, and StarCraft are all great games, but I'd never think of calling them sports.
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:53 pm GMT by Dave B
Bombing poor nations is sport. Poker is a game.
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:08 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
| Dave B wrote: | | Bombing poor nations is sport. Poker is a game. |
So, what if you're merely poking fun at Belgians?
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:32 pm GMT by Icec0o1
Why in the world would it matter if you designate poker as a game or a sport? It is what it is...ain't nobody going to think you're stronger or have more endurance because you play poker.
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:59 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
| Icec0o1 wrote: | | Why in the world would it matter if you designate poker as a game or a sport? It is what it is...ain't nobody going to think you're stronger or have more endurance because you play poker. |
In the greater scheme of things, nothing matters. Anything you might do in this life will not amount to a hill of beans as far as the universe is concerned.
So why in the world bother posting this response?
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:30 pm GMT by Skribbles
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: |
"If you can drink a beer while performing the activity, it's not a sport." |
I must disagree.
Golf is a sport. I have never played a round without a beer in hand.
Baseball / Softball is a sport. Go to any diamond and you'll find a few cases of beers.
Sport Fu_king is rarely, if ever done without beer.
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:10 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I'm going to split hairs Skribbs... you can't drink the beer while actually batting or swinging a golf club. 
And fu_king can be done with wine or liquor as well, so HA!
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:32 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
| supafrey wrote: | | People that say it's a sport are deluding themselves. |
quoted for truth
Posted Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:09 pm GMT by zinn0
Yea, I can't think of anything more physically demanding than sitting in front of my pc for a few hours clicking buttons.
Survey says! Game.
show me potato salad.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:14 am GMT by UrAteUp
It's neither a sport nor a game...to some it is a job. To others it is a recreational past time. To still others it is life. Poker is an art. Poker is a skill. Poker is all things to different people. If it is a sport or not who knows. Is ying really ying without yang? Is karma bad because the person is bad? Wouldn't a better question be would the universe still exist without poker? It's just a deep thought day in a rather shallow mind...
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:42 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | I'm going to split hairs Skribbs... you can't drink the beer while actually batting or swinging a golf club.
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now thats a lie and u know it, why do u think they have those beer hats ? :D
http://engsoc.queensu.ca/events/Pictures/Cropped%20Beer%20Hat.JPG
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:06 pm GMT by supafrey
It's funny that that's a canadian univ pic.
Also, poker is not an art.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:26 pm GMT by TxShadow
sport Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
2. A particular form of this activity.
3. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
4. An active pastime; recreation.
game1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gm)
n.
1. An activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime: party games; word games.
It's both!!!!! 
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:30 pm GMT by Gunslinger
| TxShadow wrote: | | 4. An active pastime; recreation. |
ac·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ktv)
adj.
1. Being in physical motion: active fish in the aquarium.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:48 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Telecasting an event on ESPN doesn't make it a sport. The National Spelling Bee immediately comes to mind.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:49 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| Gunslinger wrote: | | TxShadow wrote: | | 4. An active pastime; recreation. |
ac·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ktv)
adj.
1. Being in physical motion: active fish in the aquarium. |
There are fish in poker!
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:58 pm GMT by TxShadow
| Gunslinger wrote: | | TxShadow wrote: | | 4. An active pastime; recreation. |
ac·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ktv)
adj.
1. Being in physical motion: active fish in the aquarium. |
You don't move when you play poker? 
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:59 pm GMT by TxShadow
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | Gunslinger wrote: | | TxShadow wrote: | | 4. An active pastime; recreation. |
ac·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ktv)
adj.
1. Being in physical motion: active fish in the aquarium. |
There are fish in poker! |
Good point! 
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:02 pm GMT by TxShadow
ac·tive adj.
2. Functioning or capable of functioning.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:08 pm GMT by JewishPete
A sport is something that requires years of honing physical as well as mental skills to master.
poker requires mental skills.
But to be able to play at the top level, or any level for that matter, you do not have to train your body at all.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:14 pm GMT by TxShadow
| JewishPete wrote: | A sport is something that requires years of honing physical as well as mental skills to master.
poker requires mental skills.
But to be able to play at the top level, or any level for that matter, you do not have to train your body at all. |
Your statement doesn't seem to support either argument.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:28 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| TxShadow wrote: | | JewishPete wrote: | A sport is something that requires years of honing physical as well as mental skills to master.
poker requires mental skills.
But to be able to play at the top level, or any level for that matter, you do not have to train your body at all. |
Your statement doesn't seem to support either argument. |
And Phil Helmuth would strongly disagree He prepares with yoga and meditation before games, I've heard.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:36 pm GMT by wizzwizz
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | TxShadow wrote: | | JewishPete wrote: | A sport is something that requires years of honing physical as well as mental skills to master.
poker requires mental skills.
But to be able to play at the top level, or any level for that matter, you do not have to train your body at all. |
Your statement doesn't seem to support either argument. |
And Phil Helmuth would strongly disagree He prepares with yoga and meditation before games, I've heard. |
I don't think it works for him .
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:37 pm GMT by supafrey
Does anyone here actually think it's a sport? I want someone to say it just so that I can see what a moron looks like.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:39 pm GMT by Johny
| supafrey wrote: | | Poker is a sport. |
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:40 pm GMT by supafrey
hax
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:41 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
lol hey Supa - people are entitled to their opinions, what makes you think you're always correct?
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:42 pm GMT by Johny
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | lol hey Supa - people are entitled to their opinions, what makes you think you're always correct? |
His massive ego.
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:47 pm GMT by TxShadow
| supafrey wrote: | | Does anyone here actually think it's a sport? I want someone to say it just so that I can see what a moron looks like. |
By definition it falls under both so I don't think someone calling it a sport would be a moron.
I call it a game though 
Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:09 pm GMT by supafrey
That's because you're not a moron.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:51 am GMT by JewishPete
sport Audio pronunciation of "sport" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
1. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:00 am GMT by supafrey
So sex is a sport? Job hunting?
Lets not be morons here, people.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:03 am GMT by JewishPete
| JewishPete wrote: | sport Audio pronunciation of "sport" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
1. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. |
What kinda sex are you having? :D
Edit: By the way, I am saying that poker is most definitely not a sport
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:05 am GMT by Dave B
It isnt physical in the way a sprinting is, but it is physical in other ways. Doesnt it ever get your heart racing? Dont you ever feel spent over a 10-14 hour session? Can you play 14 hours for 2-4 days in a row to make the final table without it impacting you physically?
I would say that it is not a sport. I also think that you are crazy if you dont believe that there is not a physical component to the game.
It might not require althleticism, but it is physical in other ways.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:14 am GMT by JewishPete
| Dave B wrote: | It isnt physical in the way a sprinting is, but it is physical in other ways. Doesnt it ever get your heart racing? Dont you ever feel spent over a 10-14 hour session? Can you play 14 hours for 2-4 days in a row to make the final table without it impacting you physically?
I would say that it is not a sport. I also think that you are crazy if you dont believe that there is not a physical component to the game.
It might not require althleticism, but it is physical in other ways. |
I agree with that.
My main argument was basically that something like soccer requires tip top physical shape in order to compete in, whereas in poker there is no disputing that having a great physical form definitely will benefit you during those long sessions, it is not required to play at a top level like soccer or baseball would be
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:44 am GMT by Mike_M4tusow
its a competition
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:57 am GMT by TxShadow
| supafrey wrote: | So sex is a sport? Job hunting?
Lets not be morons here, people. |
I guess if you set up some rules and goals and competed with someone, sex and job hunting could be made into sports.
I'm really just playing devil's advocate here, and I know we're beating a dead horse, but to the "it's not a sport" crowd: What are you basing that on? It sounds like you're just basing it on your own idea of what a sport should be or something.
If you have developed a set of rules for something and are actively competing with someone then that is, by definition, a "sport". Most sports involve strenuous physical activity, so when someone says "sports" that is what we think of; someone running, throwing a ball, hitting a ball, kicking a ball, etc. Think about some other "sports" that don't readily pop into your head when you hear the word: bowling, fishing (when done competitively), auto racing. I don't think you can argue that those are sports, however they really don't require much more "physical" movement on the individual's part than poker does (ok, bowling kind of does, but you can be an overweight SOB and still do that). Where are you drawing the line if you're so convinced that poker is definately not a sport.
Let me just say one more time, I've never been one to call poker a sport, but since we're arguing about it anyway, I don't see why it couldn't be correctly called one.
*disclaimer* - This argument is meant for entertainment purposes only. Anyone caught taking it seriously will be severely beaten.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:02 am GMT by supafrey
| Dave B wrote: | | Dont you ever feel spent over a 10-14 hour session? Can you play 14 hours for 2-4 days in a row to make the final table without it impacting you physically? |
Is your job a sport? Have you never felt tired after 10-14 hours at it? Can you work for 2-4 days in a row without it impacting you physically?
I realize that words are just codified interpretations, but there's got to be some reasonability here. And lets look at the majority of people who DO call poker a sport : Douches. Douches, the lot of them. People more interested in hyping up their overweight asses than thinking reasonably. Morons and douches, even.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:07 am GMT by Skribbles
| supafrey wrote: | | So sex is a sport? Job |
How is it not a sport???
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:12 am GMT by Dave B
I get breaks and lunches. Most tournaments you never get more than a 5-15 minutes away. I also dont do 12-14 hours at a time in the same place, I have meetings, walk around, post to naive young clueless Canadians, etc.
That said, my job has a physical component. Most jobs do. That doesnt make them sports.
Anyone who can honestly say that there is no physical component to poker is a complete moron.
BTW-Again, I dont feel that poker is a sport. What dont you understand nimrod? Eh? 
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:50 am GMT by Gunslinger
| TxShadow wrote: | | Where are you drawing the line if you're so convinced that poker is definately not a sport. |
Like Zinn said, sitting in front of your computer clicking a button is not very active.
You can be laid up in a hospital bed in a full body cast, but one arm works, and play on a laptop.
Stephen Hawking can study the game for years, be as good as any pro, hook up a gadget so he can give commands, and play solid poker.
I agree with Dave, a physical component exists in that you need to be able to sit and play for long periods of time with your mental abilities at their full capacity. But even for just a devil's advocate, argument's sake discussion, I draw a nice, thick, easily recognizable line between sport and competitve game.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:00 pm GMT by BeerWench13
It's a game. Though a long session can be physically taxing, it is not a requirement of the game (some tournaments would be an exception) to spend that many hours playing.
| Skribbles wrote: | supafrey wrote:
So sex is a sport? Job
How is it not a sport??? |
It's very difficult, but I'm going to leave this one alone.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:05 pm GMT by Skribbles
| BeerWench13 wrote: | It's a game. Though a long session can be physically taxing, it is not a requirement of the game (some tournaments would be an exception) to spend that many hours playing.
| Skribbles wrote: | supafrey wrote:
So sex is a sport? Job
How is it not a sport??? |
It's very difficult, but I'm going to leave this one alone. |
I don't see the difficulties. Sex requires physical exertion (well... not for all woman), it has rules and you are always trying to better your preformance.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by TxShadow
Ok, let me ask you "game" people again, what are you basing that on? I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I'm simply asking.
Where exactly do you draw the game vs sport line? Is it if you have to be standing vs sitting? If it can increase your heart rate? If you sweat?
Everyone keeps saying that it's definitely not a sport, but what is influencing you to say that exactly?
What characteristic, that poker is obviously lacking, is required in order for something to be considered a sport?
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:15 pm GMT by TxShadow
And wow, we are putting entirely too much thought into this
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:26 pm GMT by KingOfSpades
Sports are games :D
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:31 pm GMT by Skribbles
One big factor... you can get injured playing any sport.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:43 pm GMT by JewishPete
| Skribbles wrote: | | One big factor... you can get injured playing any sport. |
Not so much that you can get injured playing any sport as you cannot play any sport injured.
You can't break your leg playing golf...but you can't play golf with a broken leg.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:44 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | I'm going to split hairs Skribbs... you can't drink the beer while actually batting or swinging a golf club. |
You can bowl with beer-in-hand. It's usually against the alley's policy, but it is possible.
| TxShadow wrote: | | 3. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively |
Poker, really only requires skill and mental exertion. I don't see "physical exertion" as part of the game. Is Bridge or Cribbage a sport?
| Skribbles wrote: | | Sex requires physical exertion (well... not for all woman), it has rules and you are always trying to better your preformance. |
Sex has rules? No one ever told me that. I bet I've been breaking them for years without even knowing it.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:44 pm GMT by Skribbles
| JewishPete wrote: | | Skribbles wrote: | | One big factor... you can get injured playing any sport. |
Not so much that you can get injured playing any sport as you cannot play any sport injured.
You can't break your leg playing golf...but you can't play golf with a broken leg. |
You might not be able to break your leg but you can definitly mess up your elbow, wrist, back etc playing golf.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:54 pm GMT by TxShadow
| Skribbles wrote: | | JewishPete wrote: | | Skribbles wrote: | | One big factor... you can get injured playing any sport. |
Not so much that you can get injured playing any sport as you cannot play any sport injured.
You can't break your leg playing golf...but you can't play golf with a broken leg. |
You might not be able to break your leg but you can definitly mess up your elbow, wrist, back etc playing golf. |
By that logic, you can get carpal tunnel from shuffling chips  .
How about sport fishing. You can do it with beer in hand, you can do it while injured (to an extent), and I can't think of any common injuries you could sustain while doing it (except maybe sticking yourself with a hook).
| BeerWench13 wrote: |
Poker, really only requires skill and mental exertion. I don't see "physical exertion" as part of the game. Is Bridge or Cribbage a sport? |
I guess by my logic it would be
As for physical exertion, your heart racing and andrenaline pumping definately occur while playing poker and you can definately feel physically exhausted after a long poker session.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:00 pm GMT by weirdofreek
I agree w/ "If I can smoke and drink beer while doing it it isn't a sport"
Plus sports are played by athletes. Would any one here say greg raymer is an athlete?
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:00 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| TxShadow wrote: | | Where exactly do you draw the game vs sport line? Is it if you have to be standing vs sitting? If it can increase your heart rate? If you sweat? |
If you have any chance of getting on the Wheaties box, then you're playing a sport. Something tells me you won't see Phil Ivey on it any time soon.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:07 pm GMT by TxShadow
| weirdofreek wrote: | I agree w/ "If I can smoke and drink beer while doing it it isn't a sport"
Plus sports are played by athletes. Would any one here say greg raymer is an athlete? |
Who ever said that a sport has to be played by an athlete?
Fishing, auto racing, bowling, archery, marksmanship...etc.
I could practice and compete at any of the above and I wouldn't have to spend one second in a gym.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:08 pm GMT by Skribbles
| BeerWench13 wrote: |
| Skribbles wrote: | | Sex requires physical exertion (well... not for all woman), it has rules and you are always trying to better your preformance. |
Sex has rules? No one ever told me that. I bet I've been breaking them for years without even knowing it. |
So there is nothing that your man can't do to you? Not trying to get too personal here... but *most* woman won't do certain things.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:15 pm GMT by TxShadow
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | TxShadow wrote: | | Where exactly do you draw the game vs sport line? Is it if you have to be standing vs sitting? If it can increase your heart rate? If you sweat? |
If you have any chance of getting on the Wheaties box, then you're playing a sport. Something tells me you won't see Phil Ivey on it any time soon. |
Honestly, as freakishly popular as NLHE is right now, I don't think I'd be all that suprised .
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:17 pm GMT by Droogie66
pok·er1 Pronunciation Key (pkr)
n.
One that pokes, especially a metal rod used to stir a fire.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:20 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| Skribbles wrote: | | So there is nothing that your man can't do to you? Not trying to get too personal here... but *most* woman won't do certain things. |
Well, I'd prefer he be awake so I guess I see your point. I'm weird for a chick though, so that's probably why I struggle with sex having rules. Guidelines, yes. I just didn't think there were any hard, fast rules for sex (no pun intended).
| TxShadow wrote: | | ....auto racing.... |
I'm going to open a whole new can of worms here, I'm afraid, but auto racing is not a sport either.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:29 pm GMT by golddog
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | I'm going to split hairs Skribbs... you can't drink the beer while actually batting or swinging a golf club. |
This should be filed under the heading of "not trying hard enough". I've done both.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:28 pm GMT by supafrey
Racecar drivers sweat alot more than any poker player wenchie, and that's even with them NOT being shaped like Raymer.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:30 pm GMT by weirdofreek
| Quote: | Who ever said that a sport has to be played by an athlete?
Fishing, auto racing, bowling, archery, marksmanship...etc.
I could practice and compete at any of the above and I wouldn't have to spend one second in a gym. |
Not sports either. Just because it's hard doesn't make it a sport.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:35 pm GMT by Droogie66
| weirdofreek wrote: | | Quote: | Who ever said that a sport has to be played by an athlete?
Fishing, auto racing, bowling, archery, marksmanship...etc.
I could practice and compete at any of the above and I wouldn't have to spend one second in a gym. |
Not sports either. Just because it's hard doesn't make it a sport. |
Fishing, bowling, archery and marksmanship are all games which require physical skills, therefore sports.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:44 pm GMT by TxShadow
| weirdofreek wrote: | | Quote: | Who ever said that a sport has to be played by an athlete?
Fishing, auto racing, bowling, archery, marksmanship...etc.
I could practice and compete at any of the above and I wouldn't have to spend one second in a gym. |
Not sports either. Just because it's hard doesn't make it a sport. |
I don't recall saying that anything that is hard is a sport. So, by your logic, for something to be called a "sport", it has to be played by an athlete? So if I played basketball or soccer with some friends, we wouldn't be playing a "sport" because we're not athletes?
Your logic of what qualifies as a sport isn't making a whole lot of sense.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:20 pm GMT by weirdofreek
| Quote: | So if I played basketball or soccer with some friends, we wouldn't be playing a "sport" because we're not athletes?
|
If you reach the pinnacle of your profession and find yourself to be an out of shape average Joe then what you do for a living isn't a sport. I can concede things like race car driving as they do require an above average level of physical fitness. However, poker, golf, bowling can all be done at the highest level by schmoes who couldn't make it up the stairs without getting winded. Therefore things like that qualify as games of skill, not sport.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:29 pm GMT by TxShadow
| weirdofreek wrote: | | Quote: | So if I played basketball or soccer with some friends, we wouldn't be playing a "sport" because we're not athletes?
|
If you reach the pinnacle of your profession and find yourself to be an out of shape average Joe then what you do for a living isn't a sport. I can concede things like race car driving as they do require an above average level of physical fitness. However, poker, golf, bowling can all be done at the highest level by schmoes who couldn't make it up the stairs without getting winded. Therefore things like that qualify as games of skill, not sport. |
So if I play basketball then it is a game, but when an athlete plays it, it is a sport?
So everything is a game unless athletes are playing it, in which case it is a sport?
So if a bunch of really in shape guys get together and play poker, is it now a sport?
I'm still just not following your logic. Oh well though.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:29 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
| BeerWench13 wrote: |
| TxShadow wrote: | | ....auto racing.... |
I'm going to open a whole new can of worms here, I'm afraid, but auto racing is not a sport either. |
well then u should try it sometime,
3+ hours of pullin insane G forces and u actually have to work the car,
steering isnt easy, all the gear shifting and 100% concentration during the entire race.
i know how american oval racing used to be guys who eat burgers and didnt care about weight and condidtion, but even there those days are over.
Nascar for example u need a shitload of stamina to get through a 36-race season in one piece
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:33 pm GMT by TxShadow
| weirdofreek wrote: | | Quote: | So if I played basketball or soccer with some friends, we wouldn't be playing a "sport" because we're not athletes?
|
I can concede things like race car driving as they do require an above average level of physical fitness. |
However, if a race car driver was in a race, and he was just average as far as physical fitness, he would be playing a game while all of the other race car drivers around him were involved in a sport?
| weirdofreek wrote: | | If you reach the pinnacle of your profession and find yourself to be an out of shape average Joe then what you do for a living isn't a sport. |
And are you now saying that you have to do it for a living for it to be a sport??
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:40 pm GMT by snoogins47
This is really, really saying something, but this probably rates right up there with the lamest arguments I have ever seen. I can't even read it all. Truthfully. I love to argue about a lot of things, but arguing over the definition of a word that's actually in the dictionary?
Besides, poker has to be a sport. I mean, I feel like more of a wreck after full live session of poker than I EVER did after a baseball/basketball game.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:43 pm GMT by TxShadow
| snoogins47 wrote: | This is really, really saying something, but this probably rates right up there with the lamest arguments I have ever seen. I can't even read it all. Truthfully. I love to argue about a lot of things, but arguing over the definition of a word that's actually in the dictionary?
|
Apparently your job isn't as boring as mine  .
But yeah, it is a pretty stupid argument.
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:29 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| TxShadow wrote: | | But yeah, it is a pretty stupid argument. |
Glad I started it!
Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:43 pm GMT by supafrey
It's only because you're arguing about codification, nothing more. Words are only worth as much as you put into them.... Hobbes said that, or something. It's still fun to watch you guys fight about this stuff.
Especially because poker isn't a sport. Stupids.
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:39 am GMT by BeerWench13
| Jernej Zorec wrote: | BeerWench13 wrote:
TxShadow wrote:
....auto racing....
I'm going to open a whole new can of worms here, I'm afraid, but auto racing is not a sport either.
well then u should try it sometime |
I'd love to try it. That would be great! I wouldn't want to just drive around in circles though. That would be mind-numbing and repetitive. Let me open her up on the highway to about 200+ MPH. That would be awesome!!
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:49 am GMT by UrAteUp
| BeerWench13 wrote: |
I'd love to try it. That would be great! I wouldn't want to just drive around in circles though. That would be mind-numbing and repetitive. Let me open her up on the highway to about 200+ MPH. That would be awesome!! |
And we fear women drivers now...imagine Wenchy behind the wheel of a 200 MPH bullet...god save us all.... .
Now on to this dang stupid arguement if poker is a sport or not. Years ago I would have said no. Now with the current state of poker I almost have to argue it is a sport. Anytime something is done with sponsors, for money and with professionals it has to be deemed a sport. Now stop the damn argueing because you all know I am right yet once again....
What does it really matter if it is a sport or not? Do you enjoy doing it? Does it have entertainment value? Then who gives a crap if you call it a sport or a game. The important thing is continue to play it and enjoy it.
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:29 am GMT by BeerWench13
| UrAteUp wrote: | | What does it really matter if it is a sport or not? |
It doesn't.
| UrAteUp wrote: | | And we fear women drivers now...imagine Wenchy behind the wheel of a 200 MPH bullet |
Be afraid.....be VERY afraid. 
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:06 am GMT by supafrey
| Quote: | | Anytime something is done with sponsors, for money and with professionals it has to be deemed a sport |
Is pornography a sport? ARE VIDEO GAMES SPORTS?!
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:52 am GMT by zinn0
Damn you supa...you beat me to it.
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:21 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| supafrey wrote: | | Quote: | | Anytime something is done with sponsors, for money and with professionals it has to be deemed a sport |
Is pornography a sport? ARE VIDEO GAMES SPORTS?! |
Ok when does porn have a sponsor (besides you Supa and your right hand... )?
I know sometimes you get championship type events for video games but I don't think it qualifies as a sport for various reasons.
a) Nothing to qualify for.
b) These are usually a single contest.
c) The prize money is usually small peanuts compared to most other competitions.
Honestly I still agree that this is a darn crazy post and I can not believe the amount of responses it has received and the arguements it has caused.... . Good job creating this to the original poster.
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:28 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| UrAteUp wrote: | | Ok when does porn have a sponsor (besides you Supa and your right hand... |
Don't be silly. Supa's left-handed.
Sorry, supa, I couldn't resist.
Supa has a point though. There are numerous competitions out there that gain backing from sponsors and have "professional" players. There are chess matches that have local and national sponsorships. I wouldn't consider chess a sport. It's a damn fine game, but not a sport. JMO.
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:54 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
This thread must die!!!!
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:05 pm GMT by zinn0
| wEbMaStEr wrote: | | This thread must die!!!! |
I concur.
Lock it!
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:56 pm GMT by jimmer
I have played semi-professional rugby and was taught the following:
To be a winner, you need a combination of 'heart and b*llocks' (for those in the US, b*llocks=testicles, (but is also another word for courage, determination and willingness to be brave))
This means; if you play with your heart in the first half, you need alot of b*llocks in the second. Visa-versa, if you play with your b*llocks in the first half, your heart should get you through the second!
To be a winner in poker, you do need b*llocks, but you don't need your heart. (But more your brain!)
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:25 pm GMT by TxShadow
This thread represents a wasted portion of my life that I will never get back.
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:28 pm GMT by zinn0
| TxShadow wrote: | | This thread represents a wasted portion of my life that I will never get back. |
and yet, you continue to post in here...
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:29 pm GMT by TxShadow
| zinn0 wrote: | | TxShadow wrote: | | This thread represents a wasted portion of my life that I will never get back. |
and yet, you continue to post in here...
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I know
Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:26 pm GMT by supafrey
| Quote: | I know sometimes you get championship type events for video games but I don't think it qualifies as a sport for various reasons.
a) Nothing to qualify for.
b) These are usually a single contest.
c) The prize money is usually small peanuts compared to most other competitions.
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Completely wrong on all accounts.
a) Counterstrike alone has atleast a half dozen major leagues. The largest has 4 different skill levels of which you can only qualify by beating or placing in the lower one. This takes a minimum of 2-3 years (Because there are seasons for each level)
b) Nope. Round robin matches, tournaments, and an amount of organization and competition that would make any poker player green with envy. Not to mention worldwide championships involving corporate sponsors, free airplane tickets and hotel accomadations for people barely out of their teens. The world championships for several games are held all around the world, with some of the most diverse teams of any game/sport/competition in the world.
c) CS's grand prize has been over a quarter million in the past. This doesn't include hundreds of thousands in sponsorship deals, individual licensing agreements with computers, mice, mousepads, keyboards, screens, etc, that all see people making money that puts your salary to shame. That's just one particular game, too. Individual based video game finals usually have prizes in the tens of thousands, and there are a few self-made millionaires (Fatality, etc) from these alone.
Just because you've never had an orgasm doesn't mean they don't exist.
Posted Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:33 am GMT by UrAteUp
Ok so I do stand corrected...thank you Supa for clearing that up... ...but honestly to you does it matter if poker is called a game or a sport? You just love the arguement about it don't you?... .
Oh yes and watch that Wench...she does kiss and tell.... ...and a whole lot more....
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