Does this count as a bad beat? |
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Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:05 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
Grrrrrrrrr haha
PokerStars Game #4696357666: Tournament #23458558, 310+20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/21 - 13:03:19 (ET)
Table '23458558 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mryan5v (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: Cricket_Fire (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: Highflyer911 (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: ziptat (1605 in chips)
Seat 5: audaceTomar (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: hutch789 (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: C-Munster (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: Mabettor (1605 in chips)
Seat 9: dvanvois (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: V3g@$ (1460 in chips)
Highflyer911: posts small blind 10
ziptat: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cricket_Fire  
audaceTomar: folds
hutch789: folds
C-Munster: calls 20
Mabettor: calls 20
dvanvois: folds
V3g@$: raises 40 to 60
mryan5v: raises 40 to 100
Cricket_Fire: raises 1390 to 1490 and is all-in
Highflyer911: folds
ziptat: folds
C-Munster: folds
Mabettor: folds
V3g@$: calls 1400 and is all-in
mryan5v: calls 1380 and is all-in
*** FLOP ***   
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
Cricket_Fire said, "luck ****er"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mryan5v: shows   (three of a kind, Queens)
Cricket_Fire: shows (two pair, Aces and Queens)
mryan5v collected 40 from side pot
V3g@$: shows   (a pair of Queens)
mryan5v collected 4450 from main pot
Cricket_Fire said, "un****ingbelieavle"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4490 Main pot 4450. Side pot 40. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: mryan5v showed and won (4490) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: Cricket_Fire (button) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 3: Highflyer911 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ziptat (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: audaceTomar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hutch789 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: C-Munster folded before Flop
Seat 8: Mabettor folded before Flop
Seat 9: dvanvois folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: V3g@$ showed and lost with a pair of Queens
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Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:30 pm GMT by kainARGH
| Quote: | V3g@$: raises 40 to 60
mryan5v: raises 40 to 100
Cricket_Fire: raises 1390 to 1490 and is all-in
Highflyer911: folds
ziptat: folds
C-Munster: folds
Mabettor: folds
V3g@$: calls 1400 and is all-in
mryan5v: calls 1380 and is all-in
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looks like a hand history from a play chips game.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:17 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
| kainARGH wrote: | | Quote: | V3g@$: raises 40 to 60
mryan5v: raises 40 to 100
Cricket_Fire: raises 1390 to 1490 and is all-in
Highflyer911: folds
ziptat: folds
C-Munster: folds
Mabettor: folds
V3g@$: calls 1400 and is all-in
mryan5v: calls 1380 and is all-in
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looks like a hand history from a play chips game. |
It is. Are we aloud to post play money hands? If not no worries, just wanted to share a hand
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:21 pm GMT by Muck
Yes you were a 56% favourite when you moved all-in so it fulfils the requirements of a bad beat (NB: There is a bad beat section).
However, since this is in Hand Analysis I will say that I don’t like the size of your re-raise.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:23 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Cricket_Fire wrote: | | It is. Are we aloud to post play money hands? If not no worries, just wanted to share a hand |
You can post them as long as you're not expecting any real suggestions or analysis on your play. I'd recommend you not post these hands in the "Advanced Theory" forum, however. That will definitely be frowned upon, even moreso if were weren't all distracted by the crucifixion thread.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:27 pm GMT by Muck
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | That will definitely be frowned upon, even moreso if were weren't all distracted by the crucifixion thread. |
LOL
You can post play money hands but they don’t really mean anything since the players have no motivation to play real poker.
E.g. The frequency of bad beats on a play money table is huge! Since you can move all-in with AA and get called by someone with 72o...then another 8 players, just because “hey it’s free and I might win”.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:28 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
Haha, I understand.
Not really sure why I posted it in Advanced Theory. If a mod wouldn't mind moving it...?
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:33 pm GMT by kainARGH
| Cricket_Fire wrote: | Haha, I understand.
Not really sure why I posted it in Advanced Theory. If a mod wouldn't mind moving it...? |
All in good time. Its nice your here , maybe hopefully trying to learn more about poker , good luck at the tournies i the futur 
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:39 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
| kainARGH wrote: | | Cricket_Fire wrote: | Haha, I understand.
Not really sure why I posted it in Advanced Theory. If a mod wouldn't mind moving it...? |
All in good time. Its nice your here , maybe hopefully trying to learn more about poker , good luck at the tournies i the futur |
Thanks :D
I've been playing for about 1 year with some friends in a SnG type home game, but only started winning over the past couple months (I think that's why they kept inviting me back  ). Been lurking here for a couple weeks, just signed up today. Look foreward to learning alot 8)
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:57 pm GMT by kainARGH
| Cricket_Fire wrote: | | kainARGH wrote: | | Cricket_Fire wrote: | Haha, I understand.
Not really sure why I posted it in Advanced Theory. If a mod wouldn't mind moving it...? |
All in good time. Its nice your here , maybe hopefully trying to learn more about poker , good luck at the tournies i the futur |
Thanks :D
I've been playing for about 1 year with some friends in a SnG type home game, but only started winning over the past couple months (I think that's why they kept inviting me back ). Been lurking here for a couple weeks, just signed up today. Look foreward to learning alot 8) |
Yea , this sites definatly great. As your quite new to poker , might I suggest ( depending on how seriously you wish to get better ) buying a book or two on poker. These books tend to help out the newer players IMMENSLY.
Also , if you aparently have plenty of time to lurk the net , and you sem to be searchign for poker sites , might I also suggest;
www.twoplustwo.com - for whom I am in no way affiliated with nor do I work for nor do I own the site.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:22 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
Thanks alot!
I bought and read "Poker for Dummies" (was the cheapest one there lol), and Super System (haven't read it all yet, but a good portion of the NL parts).
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:30 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| kainARGH wrote: | | Also , if you aparently have plenty of time to lurk the net , and you sem to be searchign for poker sites , might I also suggest; <link to THAT place> |
I'm horrified, kain. You better hope webby skips this post. He just might ban you for posting that link.
Tsk, tsk.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:00 pm GMT by kainARGH
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | kainARGH wrote: | | Also , if you aparently have plenty of time to lurk the net , and you sem to be searchign for poker sites , might I also suggest; <link to THAT place> |
I'm horrified, kain. You better hope webby skips this post. He just might ban you for posting that link.
Tsk, tsk. |
err , my bad? Is it still considered spam , to a none online poker site , or can you just not link to ANY site?
/never tends to read the rules
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- No posts that contain irrelevant links, non-poker related topics, or blatant advertising will be tolerated.
- No posts that promote a business, website, email address, charity, or any similiar entity that you own, work for, or are affiliated with.
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I'm pretty sure referring a good informational site to a beginner is relevent. Maybe i'kk make my remark as
www.twoplustwo.com - for whom I am in no way affiliated with nor do I work for nor do I own the site.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:09 pm GMT by BeerWench13
No, no. I was joking about the ban. Just know that Webby is not a big fan of that particular site.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:19 pm GMT by kainARGH
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | No, no. I was joking about the ban. Just know that Webby is not a big fan of that particular site. |
I'm dense at times 
I think the tsk tsk shold have given away. The word 'horrified' though made me think " oh shit , am I not suposed to link sites " lol.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:24 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| kainARGH wrote: | | The word 'horrified' though made me think " oh shit , am I not suposed to link sites " lol. |
Sorry. My sense of humor is... different. I'm not nearly as sarcastic as Sean (though I strive to be), but I do speak a great deal with a tongue-in-cheek attitude.
Technically, you're not supposed to link to other sites. However, the mods are pretty lenient if you're doing so to be helpful or for entertainment value.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:45 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Cricket,
Even if it was a real money game, your hand wouldn't be considered anything like a bad beat. It was a race in which you were favoured to win, but because the chips were moved all in preflop, really that's nothing out of the ordinary.
Welcome to the forum though, by the way. 
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:13 pm GMT by zinn0
Isn't reffering someone on this site to 'that other site' sort of like going into McDonalds and telling the customers that Wendy's is much better?
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:31 pm GMT by kainARGH
| zinn0 wrote: | | Isn't reffering someone on this site to 'that other site' sort of like going into McDonalds and telling the customers that Wendy's is much better? |
I would say theres a diference between reffering , saying the oposing/competing company/site is " much better " , and suggesting - which Is what I believe I did.
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re·fer ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-fûr)
v. re·ferred, re·fer·ring, re·fers
v. tr.
To direct to a source for help or information: referred her to a heart specialist; referred me to his last employer for a recommendation.
To assign or attribute to; regard as originated by.
To assign to or regard as belonging within a particular kind or class.
To submit (a matter in dispute) to an authority for arbitration, decision, or examination.
To direct the attention of: refer him to his duties.
sug·gest ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sg-jst, s-jst)
tr.v. sug·gest·ed, sug·gest·ing, sug·gests
To offer for consideration or action; propose: suggest things for children to do; suggested that we take a walk.
To bring or call to mind by logic or association; evoke: a cloud that suggests a mushroom; a ringlike symbol suggesting unity.
To make evident indirectly; intimate or imply: a silence that suggested disapproval.
To serve as or provide a motive for; prompt or demand: Such a crime suggests apt punishment.
Was this necessary , no. But I'm boerd and like to argue pointless topics.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:36 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| zinn0 wrote: | | Isn't reffering someone on this site to 'that other site' sort of like going into McDonalds and telling the customers that Wendy's is much better? |
Or like going into Microsoft and giving out free disks of Open Office from Sun Microsystems...
or
(One Wench will understand) Going into the Budweiser brewery and giving out free bottles or cans of Coors... .
Play chip poker is in a class of it's own. The same rules one uses for money poker does not apply for play chip poker. For instance, in play chip poker any pair, any two paint cards or any A is reason to move all-in pre-flop.
If you have two suited cards in your hand and at least 1 of your suit hits the flop then this is another reason to move all-in.
If you have a PP/pp and no one raises pre-flop this is reason to move all-in. Who cares if your pp is 22. You can still win so get your chips in.
Finally, if your name first and last names will interchange, you have a mullet, you watch WPT and think Mike Sexton is a poker god, you think Phil Helmuth is the walking answer book for poker knowledge or any 1 of these applies to you then you should move all-in pre-flop in play chip poker.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:36 pm GMT by zinn0
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:41 pm GMT by kainARGH
UrAteUp
Actually from what I've found , not many people like phil helmuth.
Posted Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:00 am GMT by Muck
| UrAteUp wrote: | | The same rules one uses for money poker does not apply for play chip poker. |
Technically it’s the strategy that differs, the rules are actually the thing that’s the same
Posted Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:13 am GMT by Muck
| kainARGH wrote: | | Actually from what I've found , not many people like phil helmuth. |
Even Mrs Helmuth thinks he’s a c***
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