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How much bad luck can you handle?



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:07 am GMT by chew
I have been getting a lot of bad luck recently which is really beginning to get me down.

I play NL STT's and most of the time it involves situations where I make a perfectly sound all-in play and am beaten by someone calling with incorrect odds and losing to them.

So I decided to start keeping a record of showdown situations I was involved in using my hand histories. I use an odds calculator to recreate and record the exact showdown stats. Now I know the site/s I play on are totally legit but after maybe 100 or so showdowns I studied the results and was pretty shocked.

Here are a few stats:
The number of times I lost as favourite was 60%.
The number of times I won as underdog was 12%
My worst Bad Beat was: my hand - 98%
My best Bad Beat on an opponent: my hand - 24%

Keeping the stats does actually help to relieve the pain a bit because it clearly shows that I am getting into sound situations most of the time but the longer the bad luck continues the more difficult it gets to keep it togehter mentally.

My bankroll is my financial safety net and is still very healthy but I think I need a psychological safety net too. I'm heading for a long break from poker if it doesnt end soon.

Chew


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Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:03 am GMT by kainARGH
here went my night.



6 hours of 1$ 2$ at my local casino. up and down up and down , hanging around my original buy in of 60$. then I dno't win a single pot for 2.5 hours. yup , 2 and a half hours , didnt win a single pot. A few bad beats , but those are to be expected , but hurt on a cold card streek. My only pot I did win , finally , My opponent hit a 5 outer on the river to split it with me.

So , 10$ left , I put 10$ on blackjack ...... win! yay , so I take my newly 20$ over to 1$-1$ no limit.

Sit down on the big blind.


A Diamond K Diamond

big stack makes it 8$

10 10

some random person calls the 8$ , I go all in for my 20$ , both call.


Flop

A x x

Turn

x

River

10


That was my night. I'm am seriously so depressed right now , ready to quit poker again. Not because of the limit thing , but the no limit thing just hurt my feelings so badly. I would have been at 60$ , right where I started , and been happy as f*ck and left. Nope , river set.

oh eya , i forgot another funny part abotu tonight. I've never had a str8 flush , in 5 years of poker. I folded one tonight. runner runner lol. 1 carded 6 high



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:27 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Try a 4-month losing streak on for size and several beats where you were 99.7% to win. Then get back to me.

Poker is a game that will test your wits severely. But if you triumph, you will come out better--in Nietzsche's words, what does not kill you makes you stronger.



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:56 am GMT by kainARGH
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
Try a 4-month losing streak on for size and several beats where you were 99.7% to win. Then get back to me.

Poker is a game that will test your wits severely. But if you triumph, you will come out better--in Nietzsche's words, what does not kill you makes you stronger.


Thats basically why I don't quit , because A. I'm not playing way over my bankroll / comfort level , like I used to and B. Everyone else has been through much worse.....So I can bitch from time to time , but I cant really complain.


Diamond , I won 60$ tonight at triple draw! go read my post in none hold-em talk , I'm kind of excited.



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:38 am GMT by tame_deuces
Its poker. If you can't handle it you can't handle poker.

Which isn't intended as an insult, but as advice. You'll need to get over the mentality of 'deserving' to win and that losing is 'bad luck'.

Losing happens, it happens alot and it can happen in row for a very long time. That's poker.

Its like in sports. Everybody can be a good winner...but when you get older and the competition gets harder, when accidents happen and you start losing. Then it takes a truly great athlete to keep on going.



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:56 am GMT by kompis
yeah bad luck is part of the game blah blah blah............. the thing that really really really pisses me off and that i cant really handle is when u make the final table of a nice big wellpaying mtt online. And the connection fecks up..... then u try like a mad man for the next 10 minutes to get back in, and when u do u have lost quite a few chips, and u find ureself with AA!! happy days!!! THEN the client folds it for you because you are apparantley sitting out..
that i cannot take, last time that happened I punched a hole in the wall, seriosly. Its not part of the game at all, total injustice should never happen



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:32 pm GMT by chew
This is unbelievable.

Since I started this post this morning I have played 3 tournaments.

First one I get no playable hands at all until AA and was short stacked so went all-in and lost to T6o. 4th. Just out of money.

Second turned into a 6-way crap shoot and just kept getting garbage. 5th.

Saved the best till last - Doing well (2nd in chips) and caught AQs in sb, tripled the bet and got two callers.
Flop A22
I check, and guy on Button went all-in (chip leader).
I call. Showdown, he has 33.
I'm 90% Favourite.
Turn is of course a 3 and the river is a 2.
So I have a full-house AA222 he has full-house 33322. 4th

Wonderful.

That last one I was a 90% favourite.

That long break from poker is getting ever closer.



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:50 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
I agree with what Tame said. If you can't handle the swings of poker, don't play it. It's a huge part of the game. Now don't get me wrong - After a bad beat, I too am steaming for a few moments. I'll take a walk, drink or eat something, come back the table and it's OVER. Finished. Forget about it. If you keep your bad beats in mind while playing, your play will deteriorate.

When I need to, I often compare my situations to others. CRAP! I just lost with my AA vs 65s. Well... It's just a game. Atleast I can afford it. Atleast no one in my family is fatally ill, etc.. It helps. Makes you realize the unimportance of the whole matter, and get back to playing normally.

Hope this helps at all. 8)



Posted Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:58 pm GMT by Ryan231
Learn to just deal with it, its going to happen. I've taken some of the worst beats I've ever had at the worst possible times this month. Busted out on the bubble of a 50+5 MTT when I was 3rd in chips with AA, the flop hit something like 2-5-8 with 2 suited cards, I get the guy all-in (hes about 5th or 6th chips) and he turns over KK, catches a runner runner flush. I've been busting out of lots of SnGs when I flop a set or 2 pair and losing to backdoor flushes and straights left and right.

I think the most important part is to just keep playing YOUR game, don't get upset and don't let it change the way you play winning poker. I've won a lot of my nicest pots off people who take a bad beat then the next hand move in with things like top pair no kicker or stupid draws.






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