Posted Mon May 01, 2006 11:12 am GMT by TxShadow
Does anyone here have experience at both 6-max and full ring FL games? I started out with the 6-max and I'll admit, the action keeps you from getting bored, but is one more potentially profitable than the other? I've heard anything from "6-max is impossible to show a profit at in the long run" to "once you try 6-max, you'll never go back to full ring".
Anyone have a lot of hands played at both and want to give an opinion?
Oh, and I'm talking about online mostly, but I'm not sure how relavent online vs. live is to this topic.
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Posted Mon May 01, 2006 11:46 am GMT by Dave B
Games are a lot looser and bluffing is a much bigger part of the game. Pots are generally smaller, but swings are larger. You simply cannot just sit back and wait for premium hands like you can at a 10 handed game.
Our local casino has all 9 handed limit games, it really helps the action IMO.
I have found that it can be fun, but it is not for the timid.
Posted Mon May 01, 2006 1:07 pm GMT by Soup_dog
I like 6 handed for NL, 10 max for FL.
Posted Mon May 01, 2006 6:58 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
It is most definitely possible to show a profit at short-handed FL games, but you need to adjust accordingly. Rarely will you see the big multiway pots you see in Ring games, and most pots are contests between 2 or 3 players at most. 6-handed is mostly a high-card and pair game, and the low PP's and suited connectors lose a lot of their value here because rarely will you get the multiway action needed to make your play correct.
The name of the game in 6-handed FL pre-flop is: 3-bet. Re-raising in position is absolutely pivotal, because it gives you control of the hand, virtually from start to finish. I like re-raising with a hand like KQ or ATs in position, because it becomes very hard for an opponent to call a bet on a flop that doesn't in some way improve my hand.
At the lower limits, play at these tables can be very loose early in the hand, which gives you some incentive to tighten up, but don't turn off the aggression--it will be even more important in this game than in ring. Strategic 3-bets can end the possibility of having to play strong high-card hands multi-way.
I'm in agreement with Soup though... if I'm going to play short-handed, I prefer NL because you can often make up for a few hits with a big pot; in Limit, you have to win most of your showdowns to turn a profit.
As far as hand selection goes, I would raise and re-raise in any position with AA-TT, and AK and AQ, suited or not. Hands like AJ, AT, KQ, and even KQ are almost always playable against a raise (in fact I often re-raise with AJ), as are 99 and 88 (again, I like 3-betting with 99 frequently). KT, QJ, QT, and JT are usually playable from any position for one bet, but not string enough to CALL an opening raise.
Posted Tue May 02, 2006 6:24 am GMT by tame_deuces
It should also be noted that you can find alot of horrible, horrible players at the 6-max tables, especially at low stakes. Especially in NL people are often insanely bad at 6-max...in NL I've actually sat at tables where I have played for more than an hour, raised 50% of my starting hands and people have routinely folded to a flop continuation in almost every instance and the only sign of resistance has been comments about how poorly I play poker.
I've also seen the opposite, tables where you don't play a hand for 10 minutes and the minute you're in a pot someone tries to bully you out of it...very wise. :D
Well, I digress...this thread was for FL. My experience is that it is alot swingier and you should definitively be prepared to go the river with pretty modest holdings against aggressive players. But at low stakes I have also seen the same, you will find far worse players who do basic mistakes much more often than they do at the full ring tables.
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