Posted Mon May 08, 2006 8:52 am GMT by JRM4833
I mostly play online and usually stay away from the large tournaments because my lifestyle doesn't allow me to sit through a 5 hour tournament. Before this weekend I had only played in one tournament larger than your standard SNGs. I've always thought my play was more suited for tournaments, but that's another story. Anyway, I tried out a 96 player tournament Saturday night and came in 6th (paid top 10). My pocket 5s ran into pocket 8s and then as the short stack my A8s ran into AKo. Can't complain about going out like that and overall I'm pretty happy to have placed in the money with so little real tournament experience.
So I've gotten the impression from some of the regulars here that it's not unheard of to place in the money with some consistency in these larger tournaments. Is this the case? I always saw it as a bit of a crapshoot because you really do need a little luck along the way or you end up with a waste of 3 or 4 hours and nothing to show for it.
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Posted Mon May 08, 2006 9:01 am GMT by Johny
It depends on what you consider to be large fields. When I play MTTs, it's usually with 500+ players. I don't play them often enough to conclude that cashing often is reasonable. I would have to say no though.
If you plan on playing MTTs with fields of around 100, then I think cashing more often is realistic.
Congrats on your finish.
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 9:15 am GMT by JewishPete
I agree with pretty much everything Johnny said.
Also, you probably have to consider the buy-in of the MTT itself as well as the amount of people.
On $3 MTT's with 2000 people on Party for example, it's not unlikely for 6 people to move all-in with anything for the first few hands really..
Interestingly, I have a higher ITM rate on the $20 180 MTT's on Pokerstars than I do for the $4 180 MTT's. Take it for what it's worth.
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 9:19 am GMT by JRM4833
| Johny4444 wrote: | It depends on what you consider to be large fields. When I play MTTs, it's usually with 500+ players. I don't play them often enough to conclude that cashing often is reasonable. I would have to say no though.
If you plan on playing MTTs with fields of around 100, then I think cashing more often is realistic.
Congrats on your finish. |
Thanks.
I understand it wasn't exactly a large tournament. I actually played a freeroll tournament (which I originally forgot about) with 1000+ and was near the top before it all came crashing down and I went out in the 400s. As I feel more comfortable I'll start getting into the bigger tourneys. This one was probably longer than it should have been because the blinds increased a bit slower than I think they normally do.
And not to sound like a newbie, but I'm not sure what some abbreviations stand for. What's MTT?
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 9:23 am GMT by JewishPete
Multi Table Tournament.
I suggest you try the Poker Stars 180-man SnG's.
They are structured like a large tournament, don't take extremely long to finish (3-4 hours) and will teach you some excellent skills along the way. Not to mention there is always one running. They have $4 and $20 versions.
I think running through a few of the $4's can really help your skills. You can get a good sense of how people typically play in tournaments, how you have to play, when and why you have to adjust your play, etc, etc. Check em out sometime.
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 9:32 am GMT by JRM4833
| JewishPete wrote: | I agree with pretty much everything Johnny said.
Also, you probably have to consider the buy-in of the MTT itself as well as the amount of people.
On $3 MTT's with 2000 people on Party for example, it's not unlikely for 6 people to move all-in with anything for the first few hands really..
Interestingly, I have a higher ITM rate on the $20 180 MTT's on Pokerstars than I do for the $4 180 MTT's. Take it for what it's worth. |
This was just a $10 tourney and I walked away with like $55. I do notice the all-ins early from a lot of players, especially if there are rebuys. I'm not that aggressive, but I always keep an eye out to go at these guys if I get a huge hand.
Thanks for the input. Every little bit helps.
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 9:35 am GMT by JRM4833
| JewishPete wrote: | Multi Table Tournament.
I suggest you try the Poker Stars 180-man SnG's.
They are structured like a large tournament, don't take extremely long to finish (3-4 hours) and will teach you some excellent skills along the way. Not to mention there is always one running. They have $4 and $20 versions.
I think running through a few of the $4's can really help your skills. You can get a good sense of how people typically play in tournaments, how you have to play, when and why you have to adjust your play, etc, etc. Check em out sometime. |
I was up about $100 at Paradise and recently cashed some of that out thinking that I'd go looking for decent bonuses. Maybe I'll try Poker Stars since everyone here seems to like it over there and I hear they have a decent points program. Thanks for the advice and the clarification on MTTs. Smacked my forehead as soon as I read it. :D
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 10:43 am GMT by tame_deuces
I am not too big on MTTs, but I used to place fairly well in some smaller MTTs (200-400 players) when I still played them. I didn't play that many though, but I made the final tables often enough to be happy about it.
I am certain people can find a profit in MTTs, but I am also confident the swings can be absolutely brutal.
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 10:48 am GMT by JewishPete
| tame_deuces wrote: | I am not too big on MTTs, but I used to place fairly well in some smaller MTTs (200-400 players) when I still played them. I didn't play that many though, but I made the final tables often enough to be happy about it.
I am certain people can find a profit in MTTs, but I am also confident the swings can be absolutely brutal. |
I have the utmost respect for any online 'pro' who exclusively plays MTT's for profit. Especially in the high stakes MTT's.
The thought of buying into a high stakes MTT, playing flawless poker for 8 hours, and than making 1 bad move on the bubble, and in turn coming away with nothing must be the worst feeling in the world.
Didn't zeejustin make a living multi tabling like 15 STT's? 
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