Posted Tue May 16, 2006 11:37 am GMT by khaosanroad
I'm not a professional, but I've been making some good money playing over the last year. My mother noticed that I have had a lot more money lately and asked me about it. So I told her that I make the extra money playing poker online.
She went into a gambling is a sin rant. I tried to expalin that poker is not like black jack, and other casino games. That when you are good at poker it's not gambling. So she called me a hustler.
This from a woman who spends 10-20 dollars a week playing scratchoffs and powerball.
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Posted Tue May 16, 2006 11:46 am GMT by poppingmycollar
take her out to a fancy late mothers day gift dinner and she should be fine with it.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 12:04 pm GMT by BeerWench13
Firstly, may I ask your age?
Of course she doesn't understand. Most parents don't. I started playing poker in my late 20's and had been out of my parents' house since I was 18. They still had a hissy over my playing poker. They've lightened up on it a bit as they now realize that I'm not putting my house deed in the pot, but it took quite a few years. Now, my dad's intrigued and wants to hear the stories, but my mom still gets that pursed-lips look on her face. She doesn't say anything any more though, especially after she heard about my successes in the casinos.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 12:30 pm GMT by khaosanroad
I'm 31. I have my own house, and good credit. I have no intention of quitting my day job. My job pays the bills, and poker pays for the toys.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 12:32 pm GMT by BeerWench13
Ahhh, I see. We're in the same boat. How long have you been playing?
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 12:40 pm GMT by khaosanroad
I've been playing for 9 months, and been consistently winning the last 4 months.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 12:43 pm GMT by Skribbles
My parents were the same way. Right at the start of my online "career" I won a big tourny so of course I told the parents about it. For about two months straight they were really worried I was blowing all my money and just got lucky once. They started to lighten after a while and then when I showed them my logs they were all for it. Once they realized I was making lots off of very small deposits they almost seemed excited for me.
Now anytime they come to visit my dad won't get off my computer. He'll log into my account and sit there playing $10 sngs all night. He won't open up his own account yet (prolly will when I'm home this summer) but he sure as shit loves playing with my money.
I'd say your best bet would be to show them what your investing in it so they don't think you're depositing thousands at a time.
Edit: Or simply say, I'm 31, PISS OFF!
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 12:50 pm GMT by BeerWench13
Give her some time to come around to the idea. Like I said, when I started playing, mom and dad were completely against it ("Gambling's a sin!") and gave me quite a bit of grief about it. Once I started discussing it with them, they relaxed about the issue. Dad, I think, would love to try his hand, but never will because of his religion. Mom thinks it's a big waste of money (even when I walk away up a grand) and that I should be spending that time and money on "more worthwhile things." I don't deal well with guilt trips and lectures, so she's lightened up on them quite a bit. I'm the only kid living in the same state as they do, so they don't want to isolate me.
I love and respect my parents, but I'm an adult. Since I moved out of their house, I have never asked them for a dime. I work hard to earn my money, I have no debt and no kids, so why not use the money I have to do something that I enjoy and (hopefully) turn it into more money?
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 1:30 pm GMT by UrAteUp
In my case it wasn't my Parents giving me the lectures. It was my Father-in-Law. He told me the online sites only wanted to get your money in their accounts so they could take it from you and that online poker is most likely rigged (we all heard that before...  ).
He recently had a big cookout and I was talking with some of his Senior friends. We started talking gambling and I mentioned playing poker online. Everyone was intrigued and couldn't beleive you could play poker on a computer for real money. When they learned I was making more in one hour playing poker then I did for an hour of work they found that remarkable. I fielded questions for about the next 1 1/2 hours on it. One gentleman even asked if he could send me an e-mail and find out details on how he could get started. I helped him sign up for a free chip account till he got used to how the software worked.
Once my Fasther-in-Law heard how well I did playing poker he wasn't against it. Since he is my boss at work, naturally playing poker at work would be fine as long as he got his rake too... . Not worth it to do that for me. I would have to make $25 an hour just to cover site rake and his rake... . He has even talked about staking me in some local tournaments for a portion of the prize.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 2:06 pm GMT by jbark
| Skribbles wrote: | but he sure as shit loves playing with my money.
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So would I
Kidding aside, my wife was a little stressed until she extracted a promise from me that i would never send in any credit card numbers. She loves to go play $5 blackjack though, go figure???
cheers
jerry
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 2:13 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
| jbark wrote: | | Skribbles wrote: | but he sure as shit loves playing with my money.
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So would I
Kidding aside, my wife was a little stressed until she extracted a promise from me that i would never send in any credit card numbers. She loves to go play $5 blackjack though, go figure???
cheers
jerry |
I'll take a peace of that pie
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 8:12 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Remember that a poker player trying to explain why poker is a skill game will invariably sound like a gambling addict trying justify who he lost his house, so don't...its -EV.
(Seriously, go through arguments for why poker is a skill game in your head and imagine them coming from a guy playing slots, because that's what it sounds like).
I just say to people I play for money I can afford to lose, that calms them all down. And besides...that's the most basic rule of good poker anyway.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 8:18 pm GMT by JohnnyCache
I straight lie about it
seriously
"Yah mom I play for 5 or 10 bucks a couple times a month"
"30 dollar copy of Supersystem? 200$ chip set? Those were prizes. At charity tournaments. cause you know, we can't play for cash. That'd be wrong."
My dad knows I play a lot, I think, and he's kind of proud of it but kind of disapproves officially, like how if you came home from school with a black eye, your dad is like, "WHAT KIND OF ESTABLISHMENT ARE THEY OPERATING" till your mom leaves the room and then he's like "Did you whup'em, boy?"
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 12:57 am GMT by khaosanroad
It was the 10 Mega Pixel Digital SLR I got her for mother's day that triggered the rant.
Yes explaining how poker is a skill game definitely sounds like a compulsive gambler trying to defend his losses.
I don't dare tell my girlfriend i'm winning money.
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 2:08 am GMT by JohnnyCache
No. You always tell your girlfriend you "about broke even"
even if your girlfriend plays.
Hell. . . even if she was playing at your table.
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 7:11 am GMT by JackKingOff
| khaosanroad wrote: |
I don't dare tell my girlfriend i'm winning money. |
whats wrong w/ telling ur girlfriend?
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 7:22 am GMT by BeerWench13
| JackKingOff wrote: | | whats wrong w/ telling ur girlfriend? |
That was going to be my question.
I know how much the hubby wins/loses in poker. But that's his money. He actually has a separate poker account, as do I. I don't expect him to do anything with that money but use it to win more.
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 7:46 am GMT by UrAteUp
| JackKingOff wrote: | | whats wrong w/ telling ur girlfriend? |
That my friend is probably the dumbest question I ever heard...(kidding)... . Except for Wench, if you tell your wife/girlfriend about your winnings the next thing you are going to hear is how there is a shoe sale, a jewelry sale or some sale she would really like to go to. Then shes hitting you up for some poker winnings to go because she feels you have nothing better to spend the money on.
Now do you get it JK?....
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 8:50 am GMT by BeerWench13
| UrAteUp wrote: | | Except for Wench, if you tell your wife/girlfriend about your winnings the next thing you are going to hear is how there is a shoe sale, a jewelry sale or some sale she would really like to go to. Then shes hitting you up for some poker winnings to go because she feels you have nothing better to spend the money on. |
I wish this weren't true, but, with a few exceptions, it really is. The guys I play with most of the time talk about how they use their poker winnings to bribe their wives into letting them play poker more often. *Sigh*
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 8:53 am GMT by JohnnyCache
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | JackKingOff wrote: | | whats wrong w/ telling ur girlfriend? |
That was going to be my question.
I know how much the hubby wins/loses in poker. But that's his money. He actually has a separate poker account, as do I. I don't expect him to do anything with that money but use it to win more. |
Yes but you forget
you're not crazy.
so you can't really think like a "woman" per se
You can only sort of be the same shape as one...
Posted Wed May 17, 2006 9:35 am GMT by BeerWench13
| JohnnyCache wrote: | | you're not crazy. |
Questionable.
| JohnnyCache wrote: | | so you can't really think like a "woman" per se |
So true. I have the toughest time getting along with other women because all they want to talk about is getting their hair/nails done, their latest shopping excursion, their kids, or want to gripe about their husband/boyfriend. Boooorrrriiiinnnngggg.
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 3:28 pm GMT by jimmer
Have you thought about trying the "lessons in life" approach.
For example, poker has taught me to try and see things from somebody elses point of view. I try and get in the mind of the other players and i put myself in "their shoes" and consider why they play the way they do.
This in turn, works for me in at work. I take more time to consider others and adjust my role within the team to suit "their style". This means i can adapt accordingly depending on the fellow team members-and therefore means i am the first person to be included or consulted when we start new projects.
Also i am now more likely to consider the percentages more closely. i only play when i have "the edge" or when the odd's are in my favour.
now to put things in perspective, before i started playing poker, i always drove around as fast as i could, i always raced off the lights when they turned green and always braked as late as i could. since i've been taking my poker more seriously, i have decided that i'm more prone to having a crash if i drive the way i did all day everyday. therefore now i have reduced my speed and only take risks when i'm late for an appointment. Hence i'm playing the percentage game and realised my eratic driving was sooner or later going to get me into trouble
most people (even poker players) laugh when i tell them these stories, but it has made a differance to my life for the better.
i'm not saying you should use my examples, but you can drop suttle hints from time-to-time to inform your mum that poker has a positive effect on you.
For example.......Money management! Inform your mum, that you've been studing bankroll management at the poker table. It's taught you to not waste money on those 50/50 decisions, it's taught you to fold the hand that you are unsure on, and save your money for the right hand. As a consequence you're now tried to use this psychology in your day-to-day life. since doing so, you now spend less on groceries and have managed to save some money which you plan to give to charity, to save the homeless. (ok, maybe that last remark is one step too far, but you get the point)
i'm sure theirs plenty of other examples you could use.
good luck
Posted Sat May 20, 2006 12:02 am GMT by groton
so glad
my Grandfather has been playing since the 1940's
so my Mom cant yap at me a ton.
unless i go a bit overboard.
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