Posted Tue May 16, 2006 2:19 pm GMT by chew
You are supposed to get dealt a pocket pair on average about every 17 hands. Right?
So whats the highest number of consecutive hands you have been dealt without getting pocket pairs? No lies please!!
I played in a MTT last night and got dealt 72 hands without pp, and then my next game (a STT) today got 31 'pocket-pair-free' hands. So that's 103 and counting. I'll keep you posted.
The reason I ask is in that last STT I played my best hand was A8s. I actually folded (not counting BB checks) 30 hands in a row until I was forced to go all-in with A2o on the button when everyone folded to me. The BB had 55 and knocked me out. Don't you just love it?
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Posted Tue May 16, 2006 2:25 pm GMT by UrAteUp
It's not uncommon to go that long without a pocket pair. This is kind of like asking whats the odds of me getting delt AA or KK back to back. It's rare but it does happen.
Posted Tue May 16, 2006 3:26 pm GMT by cayouche
I prefer getting dealt AK, AQ, KQ, AJ, KJ, QJ, ... you get the point, than getting dealt 22 or 33... but that's just me.
Posted Thu May 18, 2006 10:13 am GMT by BeerWench13
| chew wrote: | | I played in a MTT last night and got dealt 72 hands without pp, and then my next game (a STT) today got 31 'pocket-pair-free' hands. So that's 103 and counting. I'll keep you posted. |
It happens. I sat next to a guy in a casino one night for nearly 12 hours. He and I were the folders at the table (my cards were so cold that night), and, since he acted after I folded, he'd show his hands to me. Poor guy. He had nearly as awful a run as I did. Finally, about 15 minutes before I had to go wake the hubby, he shows me a pair of 8's. He got overly excited and reraised after a raise and reraise in front of him. He flopped quads. His patience paid him pretty well since both of the other players in the hands got all their money into the pot as well (one had AA and the other hit their set on the flop).
Posted Thu May 18, 2006 9:41 pm GMT by Icec0o1
On the opposite side, I was playing with my bros in a home game, a 3 hour or so tourney with 8 people.
In those 3 hours, I got pocket jacks three times, pocket kings three times, and pocket queens twice. Moreover, I hit top set on the flop over half of the time and on top of it, I never lost with any of those pairs. Once with JJ the flop included a K and a Q but both folded to my raise. One of the kings's flop had an ace but I made a tough call to see my friend holding 10's. By far the sickest night 
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 12:21 am GMT by PokerW1Z
when you dont get dealt hands you have to get creative
cant just sit there and get blinded out, what fun is that?
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 11:10 am GMT by jimmer
| chew wrote: | | I actually folded (not counting BB checks) 30 hands in a row until I was forced to go all-in with A2o |
if you are playing so tight that you are waiting for the perfect hand, you need to try and steel the odd blinds and/or put in a decent raise from time-to-time.
If you raised....say 3BB preflop and i knew you hadn't played the last 20 hands, inless i had a AA, KK, Ak or AQ suited, i wouldn't bother playing you. (i'd guess your hand as being pretty good)
try it!
(of course this doesn't work if the tables really loose, but if this is the case you could limp in a few hands anyway)
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 11:42 am GMT by foldhappy
This is one of the reasons I love playing short handed so much. It's more about playing the players, and the cards become less meaningful. Because it's short handed, you tend to see things in bunches that you don't usually see at full ring. Like in a full ring game you might get your aces cracked this hour and hope you can get some more hands like it to make some money on. In short handed it would not be uncommon to get AA, QQ, JJ all cracked in under an hour. But then you're making money on hands your opponent's can't read, like raising pre-flop with 10  9 and hittting.
They way I like to look at it is this: when I'm not seeing ANY good cards, I feel thankful that I'm getting nothing, which is easy to fold and move on with, instead of a string of good hands getting cracked and finding myself second best.
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 12:14 pm GMT by foldhappy
jimmer and I were posting at the same time, so I hadn't seen that yet. He's right. Even in full ring games you need to pay attention to the table's perception of you. If you've folded 20-30 hands, you're not necessarily looking for a great hand at that point. You're looking for some way to make yourself look involved in the game and less like a rock so that in another 10-15 hands, when you DO get a good hand you can still get action on it instead of being the guy that just folded 45 hands and finally raised one preflop....taking down the blinds only. Plus you have a chance to maybe steal some blinds, "buying you" another free round of folding. Be like Doyle, you gotta give action to get action....or at least appear to give action. Oh, and by the way 30-50 hands without a PP or other decent starting hand is nothing in the grand scheme of things. The more hands you play, the more of those little runs you will see and the smaller they will begin to seem.
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 2:42 pm GMT by jimmer
| foldhappy wrote: | | Oh, and by the way 30-50 hands without a PP or other decent starting hand is nothing in the grand scheme of things. |
It is if your on the final stages of a MMT!
Posted Fri May 19, 2006 3:38 pm GMT by foldhappy
| Quote: | | It is if your on the final stages of a MMT! |
Hence my "in the grand scheme of things". As the guy over there on the left would say: One tourney a poker player does not make
I see your point though. This is why I get frustrated with tourneys over cash games sometimes. Time invested with no profit etc. When I don't see any cards in a cash game for a while I can always pull up another table and plow through more hands until the cards come. Sort of the Michael Jordan "shoot your way out of a slump" approach. Not always possible in the microcosm of a single tourney.
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