Posted Thu May 25, 2006 3:02 am GMT by Phil14312
***** Hand History for Game 4356159211 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 25, 03:53:47 ET 2006
Table Motivating (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SuperDonkAA ( $93.61 )
Seat 2: E_dollars ( $84.45 )
Seat 4: bigslim10 ( $74.91 )
Seat 5: ZENIT69 ( $91.25 )
Seat 6: luvthenuts2 ( $102.85 )
Seat 7: yellowghostrider ( $96.15 )
Seat 8: celesteclub ( $122.30 )
Seat 9: georgekos ( $94.50 )
Seat 10: JORDAN851 ( $51.90 )
Seat 3: junget ( $50 )
ZENIT69 posts small blind $0.50.
luvthenuts2 posts big blind $1.
junget posts big blind $1.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to celesteclub  
yellowghostrider folds.
celesteclub calls $1.
georgekos calls $1.
JORDAN851 calls $1.
SuperDonkAA calls $1.
E_dollars folds.
junget checks.
bigslim10 folds.
ZENIT69 calls $0.50.
luvthenuts2 checks.
** Dealing Flop **   
ZENIT69 checks.
luvthenuts2 checks.
celesteclub bets $5.
georgekos folds.
JORDAN851 folds.
SuperDonkAA raises $16.
junget folds.
ZENIT69 folds.
luvthenuts2 folds.
celesteclub is all-In $116.30
SuperDonkAA is all-In $76.61
** Dealing Turn ** 
** Dealing River ** 
color=whiteSuperDonkAA shows   a straight, three to seven.
celesteclub shows two pairs, sixes and fives.
celesteclub wins $28.69 from side pot #1 with two pairs, sixes and fives.
SuperDonkAA wins $189.22 from the main pot with a straight, three to seven./color
Tried to play some NL cash. Tried to be more aggressive, thought I could get a weak overpair to fold. What do you think?
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Posted Thu May 25, 2006 9:09 am GMT by crack
Depends if he was a tight player or maniac. What does his raise mean?
If he is tight then I would proceed with extreme caution after his flop raise. Still getting odds and definetly implied offs to call with an OESD and FD + pair.
I mean you are most probably beat. Does he like to overplay his overpairs then? I think I prefer a call and see what the turn brings against most types of players here.
Were you mixing it up then playing 64s in ep?
Posted Thu May 25, 2006 11:59 am GMT by shorn7
I think you made the right play. You have so many outs here you are a clear favorite to an overpair: 9 flush, 3 str8, 5 for two pair/trips. 17 outs twice is almost 60/40.
You push because of your hand potnetial, not because you think you are ahead here. You want him to call.
Posted Thu May 25, 2006 11:50 pm GMT by Phil14312
Nobody else... 
BTW, results are in white, but don't read them first!
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 12:05 am GMT by zinn0
I'll chime in here. I don't really have a lot to add, but...and I think this was mentioned earlier, open-limping with 64h is not really a great idea. WIth hands like these, I like to play them from LP in multiway pots. I just feel they 'work' better that way.
As for how the hand played out, I don't know about the all-in. I would probably call the raise and re-evaluate on the turn.
*and now that I've gone back and read the inviso-text, it appears that SuperdonkAA lives up to his name.
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 1:01 am GMT by kainARGH
I believe I go for a very large raise here - not all in. All in looks like desperation to me. If you however re-raise to say 45$ .... you want a fold but don't mind a call.
The goal here is to try to fold the other player now that hes commited a re-raise to the pot. but with so many outs you don't mind going to the river.
.02
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 1:59 pm GMT by Phil14312
I thought the only hands that could really call me was a set, and maybbeeeee an overpair like 99. Even against a set it is almost a coin toss, me at 45%. I actually got called by probably the worst hand possible, in that he had a higher flush draw + overcards + plus my kicker was his gutshot to a higher straight. Kinda sucked that hand called me 
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 3:17 pm GMT by fiezk
Yeah, it sucked that he called you in this case.
Kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the advertising campaign profit by the all-in move. By playing big draws (and this draw is a monster) very aggressively, you are much more likely to get called when you flop a great hand later on. Whether you choose to move in or just re-raise is up to you - do what you feel would indicate more strength.
I also don't mind limping in with a low one-gapper with deep stacks at all.
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 4:14 pm GMT by Icec0o1
| zinn0 wrote: | | *and now that I've gone back and read the inviso-text, it appears that SuperdonkAA lives up to his name. |
How? Nothing special about this hand...you can play 64 suited anytime you want. In this case, you went against flush draw/inside straight/2 overs so it was 50/50 and you lost.
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 4:20 pm GMT by zinn0
I think you've misread something somewhere.
Posted Fri May 26, 2006 6:58 pm GMT by Phil14312
| Icec0o1 wrote: | | zinn0 wrote: | | *and now that I've gone back and read the inviso-text, it appears that SuperdonkAA lives up to his name. |
How? Nothing special about this hand...you can play 64 suited anytime you want. In this case, you went against flush draw/inside straight/2 overs so it was 50/50 and you lost. |
I was 58/42 but who's counting. Are you saying if you were villain you would make that call?
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