Posted Sun May 28, 2006 4:04 pm GMT by cobi
I was extremely bad beaten and I don't know what I did wrong...
Blinds were (after currency change) about 10/20 dollars...
my hand: 6 8 suited. I called preflop the 20 dollars.
someone reraised it to 80 dollars ! I called because of if I get "the hand" I am lucky... I could afford if I lose.
Flop: A 6 5.
I had the middle pair. My opponent raised to 180 dollars. It was obvious that he didnt have the ace.
I had about 700 dollars left... maybe now my mistakes come: I went ALL in.
he thought a long time and CALLED. Cards were flipped over.
He showed 4 5 suited !!
Turn was 3; now he had an open straight draw but also a flush draw (1 suit was the A at the flop and now the 3 had the same suit).
I hoped that the river won't be 2,5,7 or a spade....
the river was 7 + spade.... he didnt won because of his straight but because of his flush !!
I was so sure he was bluffing from the beginning. Actually I was correct with my thoughts but at the end it didn't help.
Was it a mistake to go ALL IN after the flop? if I just had called, he would have raised the turn for sure because he had the open end straight and the flush draw...
Should I reraise to 500 dollars instead of going ALL in ?
Maybe you tell me it was a bad call from the beginning; maybe yes. but I was so sure he didnt have such good cards. Sometimes you feel it by his betting in previous games.
I have to add: it was NO heads up. 1 called preflop for 10 dollars and folded the 80 dollars.... the guy with his 4,5 and myself were NO blinds (I was one seat before him to do the decision and called the 10 dollars)....
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Posted Sun May 28, 2006 4:53 pm GMT by supafrey
Horribly played. Should have folded to his all-in, duh.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:01 pm GMT by cobi
| supafrey wrote: | | Horribly played. Should have folded to his all-in, duh. |
I went all in........
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:03 pm GMT by supafrey
Horribly played. Should have open-folded.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:04 pm GMT by cobi
| supafrey wrote: | | Horribly played. Should have open-folded. |
who?
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:08 pm GMT by supafrey
Both of you.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:15 pm GMT by Icec0o1
Don't listen to him...
You said you had a read on him and put him on garbage and were right. You played it perfect and got unlucky.
You have to play like that against fish like that guy...supa's only used to playing decent people and would've folded the better hand preflop to the $80 raise.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:16 pm GMT by cobi
| supafrey wrote: | | Both of you. |
of course it was one bluff after the other. but why did this guy CALLED if he knew he was bluffing?
does anyone have same expieriences? Who calls if he knows he is bluffing indeed??? it was not 7 dollars; it was 700 dollars to call !
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:25 pm GMT by crack
play money or real money?
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:29 pm GMT by cobi
| crack wrote: | | play money or real money? |
real money! otherwise I could sleep better 
i just checked my odds:
preflop percentage to win: 60% / percentage to tie: 4 % / percentage to lose: 36 %
flop: percentage to win: 75 % / percentage to tie: 0 % / percentage to lose: 25 %
turn: flop: percentage to win: 55 % / percentage to tie: 0 % / percentage to lose: 45 %
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:30 pm GMT by cobi
maybe HE thought I was bluffing because I raised too much after the flop? could that be a possibility?
but what could I have worse than 4 5 suited if I CALLED HIS PREFLOP-RAISE?
did he think I had QJ ??? K10 ?? nothing would make sense...
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:34 pm GMT by supafrey
you really shouldn't think about a hand for this long.
I think you're lying about it not being enough money to "affect you".
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 5:45 pm GMT by cobi
| supafrey wrote: | you really shouldn't think about a hand for this long.
I think you're lying about it not being enough money to "affect you". |
of course it hurted. But i was playing for "free" (I got a bonus in my account and I cashed out allready 800 dollars of my 1000 which I made). So I made with my last 200 dollars again 700 or 800 and then this story happened.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 7:48 pm GMT by crack
I think you should learn a bit about bankroll management. Supa has wrote a few articles on it. Take a look.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 8:17 pm GMT by Hurricane Ham
| Icec0o1 wrote: |
You have to play like that against fish like that guy...supa's only used to playing decent people and would've folded the better hand preflop to the $80 raise. |
Yes, except folding the better hand pre flop is a moot point since WE DON'T KNOW HIS HAND AT THAT TIME.
Posted Sun May 28, 2006 8:17 pm GMT by supafrey
ah so i was right.
Posted Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:08 pm GMT by Poker Wizard
I don't think you should have went all in, a nice raise would have done the trick.
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