Posted Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:35 pm GMT by jbark
This hand came up last night when i was in really good shape in an MTT:
i had just changed tables a few hands prior and had wan a nice pot by pushing villian off his hand when i had flopped a set of 7's (played pp of 7's)
villian had the button and 16K in chips
hero is BB and has 42K in chips
blinds are 1000/2000
hero gets A 4 s
one limper and villian call,
hero raises $2000
limper folds, villian calls
flop: 7 Q 4 rainbow
hero ??
Thanks
jerry
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Posted Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:39 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Standard continuation bet here... I'd say around $4000 or so. Unless villain has a PP or a Q, I think that should put him off the hand easily. From how he played pre-flop it's doubtful he has you beat.
Posted Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:12 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | Standard continuation bet here... I'd say around $4000 or so. |
Yup. Every time.
Posted Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:54 pm GMT by jbark
OK,
i was thinking continuation bet and bet $2000, too low??
villian calls
turn 2h
hero??
thanks
jerry
Posted Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:42 pm GMT by Ciso_B
i find it pretty hilarious taht the limper passed for the minimum bet lol.
yeah 2,000 on flop was too small, like ^ said , 4,000 would have been better.Once your called on taht flop , I think you are definitely beat, the only hand you are beating is 56suited or something.
Posted Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:01 am GMT by fiezk
Villain calls an obvious continuationbet of 2000 into a pot of 10 000, doesn't really give you any information and makes the turn pretty hard to play out of position.
Personally I don't see enough information that villain is ready to play his hand for all his chips. I'd bet around 5000 here, telling your opponent that he'll be risking his stack if he calls. Call it a delayed continuation bet, or whatever. There's 14000 in the pot and villain has 10000 left and he has yet to show any strength at all.
Posted Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:57 am GMT by erasokamotesk
totally agreed with you
Posted Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:37 am GMT by jbark
Thanks for the responses, they help me learn a lot.
i bet the turn and river at $2000 again and ended up loosing to a Q7.
After that hand was done the blinds went up again and i was squeezed out when i had to go all in with KQo and got called by AA.
Before i posted this i tried to think where i went wrong. My conclusion was that on the flop i should have done one of two things: fold or bet bigger, maybe even push. i did not think he had anything strong due to his limping in had i pushed and he called i would have ended up no worse off than the way i played it, but had i pushed that flop i think i would have been showing the strength of high pair or a set and it might have pushed him off.
Thanks again as i really learn a lot from reading these hand posts. I need to avoid getting into hands like this in the future and this is how i can learn to do that.
cheers
jerry
Posted Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:57 am GMT by 72o
I'd like to add something to the continuation bet topic: If your continuation bet gets called (and assumed your opponent plays straight) your opponent is very likely to have hit the flop and that means your bottom pair is behind. A continuation bet extracts valuable information from your opponent.
Many players seem to think that just betting the flop makes them a winner. This is not true, of course.
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