Analyze one of my gf's hands ($25 NL) |
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Posted Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:37 am GMT by TxShadow
Haven't been at the table long. No reads on villain.
Hero = Clarajane
Villain = hatch_c130
#Game No : 4526952585
***** Hand History for Game 4526952585 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, June 16, 00:49:01 ET 2006
Table Table 108115 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: hatch_c130 ( $21.47 )
Seat 3: waldojz13 ( $27.35 )
Seat 1: Clarajane ( $50.95 )
Seat 4: BAKALI ( $26.35 )
Seat 6: Gabriel1018 ( $24.50 )
Clarajane posts small blind $0.10.
hatch_c130 posts big blind $0.25.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Clarajane Q Q
waldojz13 calls $0.25.
BAKALI folds.
Gabriel1018 folds.
Clarajane raises $0.90.
hatch_c130 calls $0.75.
waldojz13 calls $0.75.
** Dealing Flop ** 3 6 T
Clarajane bets $3.
hatch_c130 is all-In $20.47
waldojz13 folds.
Clarajane ...???
It's approx. $17 more to call this.
Easy fold here? (keeping in mind no reads on villain)
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Posted Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:43 pm GMT by shorn7
I call. The reason is I don't think he would push here with a set, so you are most likely ahead. He either has a FD, JJ, or AT. You are getting around 1.5 to 1 to call and I think your hand is good 60% of the time, so a call is in order. Just my two cents.
Posted Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:33 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| shorn7 wrote: | | I call. The reason is I don't think he would push here with a set, so you are most likely ahead. He either has a FD, JJ, or AT. You are getting around 1.5 to 1 to call and I think your hand is good 60% of the time, so a call is in order. Just my two cents. |
I don't think A10 would push here in case heroine was holding a PP. I am thinking more along the lines of AX , AKo or bluffing. Either way I am making the call here and praying to the poker gods at the same time.... 
Posted Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:41 pm GMT by crack
No reads, buddy goes all in and I think for a while and will probably fold.
If he is terrible then you will catch him again sooner or later.
But if you don't mind gamb000ling then go for a call. If I haven't seen him play any hand at all then I would fold pretty much all the time.
Posted Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:44 pm GMT by Johny
I call. Most players at $25 NL will re-raise with AA or KK. It's very unlikely that he'd push with a set. Two-pair seems unlikely because he'd have to have 10 6, 10 3 or 6 3. He more than likely has a pair with a flush draw.
Posted Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:26 pm GMT by suitedaces84
She's up $25 so far. If she folds here she can leave up $20 and take you out for dinner. That makes this a clear fold, IMO.
I think the more interesting question is should she continue playing so that she can take you some where nice. Of course she could lose and then you get no free dinner--but this is a decision you have to make.
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:57 pm GMT by TxShadow
| suitedaces84 wrote: | She's up $25 so far. If she folds here she can leave up $20 and take you out for dinner. That makes this a clear fold, IMO.
I think the more interesting question is should she continue playing so that she can take you some where nice. Of course she could lose and then you get no free dinner--but this is a decision you have to make. |
I like this line a lot.
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:05 pm GMT by TxShadow
Well anyway, here's the rest of it:
I say to her "Man, I really think he has a s..."
and before I could finish...
Clarajane calls $17.47.
** Dealing Turn ** 8
** Dealing River ** Q
Clarajane shows Q Q three of a kind, queens.
hatch_c130 doesn't show 6 6 three of a kind, sixes.
Clarajane wins $41.94 from the main pot with three of a kind, queens.
Yay for luck  .
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:23 pm GMT by Johny
Folding there is weak imo.
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:04 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I know it is an old and hated term, but 'it depends' IS the right answer in situations like these. Some people would almost never to do this against a preflop raiser, some will almost only do it on a draw and some would never do it unless they could beat an overpair. Some would do it with a pair and some just like to bluff on benign looking flops.
As for pushing the flop with a set I often do that vs. people who get married to overpairs in no limit. Sure, I lose small bet when they have only overs but I think its better to do it before a possible flush or straight scares them silly anyway.
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:10 pm GMT by Johny
| tame_deuces wrote: | | As for pushing the flop with a set I often do that vs. people who get married to overpairs in no limit. Sure, I lose small bet when they have only overs but I think its better to do it before a possible flush or straight scares them silly anyway. |
Why not just re-raise in that situation? If they overvalue overpairs than they'll at least call or more than likely come over the top.
I think that the overbet from Villain was a little too much, I don't think he's making much money that way.
The thing I like about it is it doesn't look like he has set, so he'll get called by a wider range of hands.
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:56 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| Johny wrote: | | tame_deuces wrote: | | As for pushing the flop with a set I often do that vs. people who get married to overpairs in no limit. Sure, I lose small bet when they have only overs but I think its better to do it before a possible flush or straight scares them silly anyway. |
Why not just re-raise in that situation? If they overvalue overpairs than they'll at least call or more than likely come over the top.
I think that the overbet from Villain was a little too much, I don't think he's making much money that way.
The thing I like about it is it doesn't look like he has set, so he'll get called by a wider range of hands. |
The thing about alot of low stakes player is that they call where they should fold or raise. So they call a raise with their jacks or queens and whatnot and then the third heart falls, or an ace or a king or some obvious straight card and they shut down.
I won't claim pushing/overbetting is best, but my observation is that it will often work vs bad players.
Posted Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:15 pm GMT by Johny
Ok, now I understand what you mean. I've noticed that too, they'll just flat call a raise with an overpair on scary boards.
It depends on the read you have. If you've seen your opponent play big pairs passively to a raise and that they're willing to get all the chips in the middle in that situation, then a push isn't bad at all.
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