Your biggest flaw / weakness / hole ? |
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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:45 am GMT by supafrey
Time for some honest reflection and communal well wishing. Perhaps someone's hole will let you realize your own - just share what the WORST part of your game is....
For me, personally, I tend to give people WAY too much credit on any flush-possible board. 3 of a particular suit and i'm shaking in my boots. Biiiig hole.
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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:07 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
i dont pay enough attenion to the game so more or less i have no clue how someone plays at my table
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:35 am GMT by mindgame
It's after I've lost a BIG hand to someone with maybe 3 cards in the deck going into the river. I've made him pay 4 bets on the turn and he was a near-hopeless 'dog. Now I'm staring across the table at 5 or 6 hundred bucks that SO-O-O should be in front of ME that it's making me nuts!
I want it back. I don't just want it back--I want it back from HIM! I want to make HIM pay. I know the weaknesses in his game, the idiotic calls and stupid EP raises on Ax off and I want to reak vengence as his personal enforcement officer of the laws of probabilitiy--forgetting that those very laws dictate that he must make some of those stupid hands he hits.
So I lose focus on everyone else. I don't even want THEIR money. And that's where all my money is going to end up, because it's absolutely certain that he will have squandered that huge stack in an hour less by even more outrageously defying all the odds. So I'm completely out of my game, simmering away as he bleeds hundred of bucks away, hand after hand.
There's something entirely too unsettling in the knowlege that a fool and MY money are soon parted.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:02 am GMT by UrAteUp
I sit down at the tables with a short buy-in. For some reason I like to only take table min. and never the max. I feel that it helps to hide my abilities but in fact it costs me money in the end when I hit the nuts and push all in. Sure I double up plenty and build to my roll while I am playing but it also leads to me leaving extra money behind at the table. For some dang reason I can't get myself to set with a full buy-in.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:09 am GMT by snoogins47
Focus is my biggest hole and it's not even close, though that's hardly poker specific. If I had to guess, my auto-pilot game is probably about my C or D game, and that's what ends up at the tables most of the time. My head don't work goot. It's frightening how little I actually think about decisions/opponents/etc. while I play, and how much worse I play because of it.
If we're talking more specific as for games/situations, I think it's large multiway pots. In NL, it's those multiway pots where nobody really shows much aggression, whereas in FL, it's those huge pots where everybody is going nuts. I generally tend toward wussing out there, when I should probably be doing the exact opposite.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:12 am GMT by Hurricane Ham
Missing bets, especially on the river. Checking behind a lot, not reraising when I should. Moreso in stud, but it's slowly creeping into my holdem game, and it costs me quite a bit. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, seeing that I could have gotten another bet out of my opponent, but I should've played the hand for the extra bet anyway instead of wimping out in most cases.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:14 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I overplay marginal hands, a lot.
Like mindgame, I too often make it "personal" with another player, costing me money to others.
I become almost psychotic during downswings.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:28 am GMT by tame_deuces
I bet and raise too much, and I get bored in unraised pots.
I'm the guy with the 'plz check/raise me' sign stamped to his forehead.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:22 am GMT by kingetje
in live games i sometimes give a little too much credit.. i may think someone has made a straight when i got a set or something when i have the best damn hand here
call it paranoia
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:14 am GMT by tutubird
My biggest problem is calling even when I know I am beat. It loses me alot of money. Curiosity always gets the best of me, just so I can re-assure myself that I was right but I had to pay the guy off to do it. I am working on it.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:26 am GMT by Fat Tony
Is it just a coincidence that supa posted this a short time before the WSOP qualifier? 
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:28 am GMT by Nihil75
I worry too much about the money when I'm on a downswing. I catch myself limping in with weaker cards and calling raises in hopes of flopping miracle cards to win a huge pot...
I also try to play in a style I'm just not good at sometimes. I tried the whole super-loose-aggressive thing for a while... lost myself a good chunk of change that way 
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:06 pm GMT by groton
i'll post on the 3rd 8)
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:08 pm GMT by supafrey
| Fat Tony wrote: | | Is it just a coincidence that supa posted this a short time before the WSOP qualifier? |
There's a reason I've made a killing at the thp events so far... 
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:32 pm GMT by mindgame
Fat Tony--
That's a completely hilarious and disturbingly incisive observation!
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:41 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
My weakeness is paying off small bets on the river when I know they have a certain hand, just to see if I right. And in stud I'm giving too much credit to people, especially in multiway pots. I've thrown away the best hand on 6th, albiet with a somewhat marginal hand, (which is probably also a problem) only to see 2 donks show a single pair on 7th, or better yet a missed gutshot draw that already had 3 of their cards showing.
Stupid stud players.... one guy had trip kings SHOWING, and some guy called him down with a PAIR of SIXES. Thankfully trip kindgs checked the river so we got to see just how terrible the other guy really was. Its sad I'm not making more money off stud, the players are just terrible.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:11 pm GMT by Fat Tony
| supafrey wrote: | | Fat Tony wrote: | | Is it just a coincidence that supa posted this a short time before the WSOP qualifier? |
There's a reason I've made a killing at the thp events so far... |
Other than catching an amazing run of cards? 
On a more serious note, i can't believe that people are still replying with answers to your question.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:26 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Fat Tony wrote: | | On a more serious note, i can't believe that people are still replying with answers to your question. |
Ummm, he can't play in the qualifier.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:19 pm GMT by Fat Tony
That may be so, but he's also not the only one who is able to read this thread.
I'll reply on July 2nd.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:22 pm GMT by arras
Losing focus/getting drunk during play. If I could drop down from my regular limits when I start getting a buzz I could really do a lot better with my bankroll.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:23 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Fat Tony wrote: | | That may be so, but he's also not the only one who is able to read this thread. |
I haven't read anything worth remembering, to be honest.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:33 pm GMT by Gunslinger
I'm a tourney/SNG player, and I'm too tight/conservative with my starting hand selections. I can be aggressive enough pre- and post-flop with a good starting hand or when I hit the flop, but I need to learn how to play better when I have a medium stack and I'm card dead. If I acquire a big stack, I'm pretty comfortable mixing it up and applying pressure, but that doesn't happen as often as I'd like. My ITM% in SNGs is pretty good, because playing tight early is a decent strategy, but in MTTs I find myself limping towards the money too often, playing push or fold.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by zinn0
I've always had a hard time letting go of big PP's, even though my instincts are telling me I'm behind. I'm getting better though.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:07 pm GMT by supafrey
I could play if I wanted... I just couldn't use my seat =P
That would be a pretty good ego booster, though.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:38 pm GMT by lwestatbus
| tutubird wrote: | | My biggest problem is calling even when I know I am beat. It loses me alot of money. Curiosity always gets the best of me, just so I can re-assure myself that I was right but I had to pay the guy off to do it. I am working on it. |
I have made a LOT of money calling down with high cards against someone who didn't pair their AJ but kept on betting anyway. And I've lost MORE doing the same thing.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:41 pm GMT by TheSalche
i keep trying to beat games and pouring money into higher stake games even when im running cold
i lost $170 at 3/6 stud yesterday after i had built my bankroll up from $60 to $250 ... im working it back up now ... $140 ... needs to get to $500 to cover my losses
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:33 pm GMT by Ryan231
Sometimes I'll call on the end when I know I'm beat to see if my read was correct or not. To me its worth paying them off a little more to know that I can put someone on a very specific hand and then when they turn it over I really am happy. Its a pretty big hole though because it ends up costing me some of my profits in the long run.
Theres also the times when I call an overbet because I feel something is fishy.. check/check/allin just gets me sometimes, I'm starting to learn weak players tend to use this move a lot in cash games though.
Posted Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:59 am GMT by shorn7
My biggest weakness is maximizing my profit on the river when I have a very good hand that isn't the nuts. I tend to miss value bets when a semi-scare card comes when if I logically thought through the hand, it would be evident that the scare card doesn't make sense for my opponent.
I also tend to act too quickly without thinking sometimes. I guess this is a result of the 30 second internet clock, but that is actually a lot of time.
Posted Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:42 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Historically, my biggest weakness has been playing above my BR, but lately it's come down to the marginal situations again. They say playing the marginal situations well is what makes a great player, so I'm still missing that. What I mean is that I'm calling some crucial bets when I should be folding (mostly because of a supremely confident "read" gone awry), and folding when I really should be calling (mostly because I'm giving some donks WAY too much credit. You'd think by the $200 NL and $5/$10 that people would pull their heads out of their asses, but apparently not).
Also, I've been giving too much attention to raw pot odds when I should be looking at total equity and implied odds... I think I've lost a lot of money calling small bets simply because I'm thinking, "OMFG, 8-to-1, that's an easy call!" I really need to stop that, because especially in games like Stud, one bad mistake leads to more. Yesterday, a hand I should have folded on 4th street cost me an extra 4 BB. That's baaaad.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:12 am GMT by BadBeatJones
I'm not in the WSOP qualifier so i guess its safe to answer. LOL.....
My weakness has to be overestimating my opponents abilities which leads me to overbetting the pot.
I'll have the best hand and make a bet that makes it unproffitable for my opponent to call just to watch them call anyway and catch their miracle card. I over-estimate their ability to fold. I assume they understand odds and are aware that i have just made it unproffitable to call. I expect them to understand these things but they do not. (well, most do not)
In order to keep them from calling when i have the best hand I'll usually overbet the pot a ridiculous amount (sometimes all-in). I put too much at risk trying to keep them from calling on a draw. I need to learn that it doesnt matter what I bet. $10 or $10,000, some players will call anyway so why risk it all when i don't have to.
I soley play in Tournaments and not in Ring games so this strategy of not risking it all applies only to Tournament play obviously. In a Ring game I would bet it all everytime i had the best hand, if i knew i was going to get called. Knowing in the long run i would profit.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:27 am GMT by Nazrudin
I'd have to say not folding my hand to a big bet on the river even when the voice in my head is yelling "FOLD YOU FOOL"
I know why though, it’s the "Poker Testosterone" racing through my veins over-riding common sense.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:14 pm GMT by Biowza
hmm my biggest flaw would probably be my ego. I feel like i have been kicked in the gonads when i get beat. I also have a problem with controlling my emotions and dont give me that "its poker" i know it is but its still hard for me.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:02 pm GMT by mikenike
my problem is that i play poker.
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