Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:27 pm GMT by greathuskie
PokerStars Game #5300901908: Tournament #26714008, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/06/19 - 14:24:24 (ET)
Table '26714008 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: lt stew? (700 in chips)
Seat 2: wiudad09 (3920 in chips)
Seat 3: jpfarstad (1705 in chips)
Seat 5: ohiotrain (3770 in chips)
Seat 6: razza388 (3185 in chips)
Seat 7: 3692620a (3855 in chips)
Seat 8: Flex Wheeler (1385 in chips)
jpfarstad: posts small blind 15
ohiotrain: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wiudad09  
razza388: calls 30
3692620a: folds
Flex Wheeler: folds
lt stew?: folds
wiudad09: raises 60 to 90
jpfarstad: folds
ohiotrain: calls 60
razza388: calls 60
*** FLOP ***   
ohiotrain: checks
razza388: checks
wiudad09: bets 120
ohiotrain: calls 120
razza388: folds
*** TURN *** 
ohiotrain: checks
wiudad09: bets 180
ohiotrain: calls 180
*** RIVER *** 
ohiotrain: checks
wiudad09: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ohiotrain: shows   (a pair of Kings)
wiudad09: shows (a pair of Kings - lower kicker)
ohiotrain collected 885 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 885 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: lt stew? folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wiudad09 (button) showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: jpfarstad (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ohiotrain (big blind) showed and won (885) with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: razza388 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: 3692620a folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Flex Wheeler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
any ideas? i hate betting with 4 to a flush on hte board, but could you guys have bet the river?
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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:34 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| greathuskie wrote: | | any ideas? i hate betting with 4 to a flush on hte board, but could you guys have bet the river? |
When it's checked to me? Every time.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:39 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Since you're OOP and hes been betting the whole way, theres not much you can do. He doesnt seem scared of the flush being out there, so he either has it, or thinks you dont. Stone cold bluffing the river with no information to the contrary is bad imo, especially at this stage of the tourny and with the pot being pretty small. You played the hand as well as can be expected.
Btw, KJ is my least favorite hand. Acutally, I pretty much hate any hand that has a J in it, except 10Js.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:42 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Jefecaminador wrote: | Since you're OOP and hes been betting the whole way, theres not much you can do. He doesnt seem scared of the flush being out there, so he either has it, or thinks you dont. Stone cold bluffing the river with no information to the contrary is bad imo, especially at this stage of the tourny and with the pot being pretty small. You played the hand as well as can be expected.
Btw, KJ is my least favorite hand. Acutally, I pretty much hate any hand that has a J in it, except 10Js. |
You misread the action completely. He's in position and the aggressor. The AK is the OOP calling station. And if you're going to bluff at a pot and get called, don't you want to do it when the pot is small? Build a bit of an image while it's cheap.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:43 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Oh, oops, I thought he has Ohiotrain. In that case you definately bet the river, he checked to you, no way he has a diamond on this obvious board. Make it something worthwhile though, like half the pot.
Posted Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:55 pm GMT by Phil14312
My first instinct was to check...but I suck at NL and maybe this is where I don't sack up and bet.
Posted Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:20 pm GMT by BadBeatJones
If this weren't a $1.00 buy in i would definitely say that a substantial bet on the river might have taken the pot. But in these low buy-in games most of the players do not know well enough to lay down TPTK with a 4 to a flush on the board. I think you made the right play.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:03 am GMT by UrAteUp
I don't think it has anything to do with the other player not seeing the flush possability on the board. I just think villian here didn't put Husky on the flush. Most players in these lower limits tend to think that a four flush is not a hand to come out betting with. That is probably the reason this guy didn't put Husky on a flush draw. Also I personally don't think your going to get the AK to fold no matter what.
KJ is a good hand to play but I wouldn't get so aggressive with it when you could be behind in a hand. Its a better hand to follow betting with then it is to lead. If that make sense.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:19 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Personally, I think youplayed the hand fine. Unlike Sean, I hate a bet on that river--it has little to gain, but a lot to lose. Most hearts will call you, and his betting pattern seems to indicate a draw. I'd just mourn your bad luck he played AK so horribly.
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:45 pm GMT by khaosanroad
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | his betting pattern seems to indicate a draw. |
At first yes, but then he checks the turn when the diamond hit. Maybe he's trying to sucker a bet out of you by checking, but then he checks again on the River. He either has to reraise or lay it down.
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