Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:44 pm GMT by greathuskie
PokerStars Game #5341659086: Tournament #26603917, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/06/23 - 15:41:25 (ET)
Table '26603917 41' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Murts (21903 in chips)
Seat 2: Dhex1973 (11680 in chips)
Seat 3: 1stShortchge (16099 in chips)
Seat 4: Ninja_X8 (13700 in chips)
Seat 5: whiteal (4969 in chips)
Seat 6: Esran (15465 in chips)
Seat 7: wiudad09 (9535 in chips)
Seat 8: harvardpete (40247 in chips)
Seat 9: born4playing (21485 in chips)
whiteal: posts small blind 100
Esran: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wiudad09  
wiudad09: raises 600 to 800
harvardpete: folds
born4playing: calls 800
Murts: folds
Dhex1973: folds
1stShortchge: folds
Ninja_X8: folds
whiteal: folds
Esran: calls 600
*** FLOP ***   
Esran: checks
wiudad09: bets 2000
born4playing: raises 6000 to 8000
Esran: folds
wiudad09: raises 735 to 8735 and is all-in
born4playing: calls 735
wiudad09 said, "wow"
*** TURN *** 
wiudad09 said, "give me a ****ing break. thats all i can say"
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wiudad09: shows (two pair, Aces and Fives)
born4playing: shows   (a full house, Fives full of Sixes)
born4playing collected 19970 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19970 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: Murts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Dhex1973 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 1stShortchge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ninja_X8 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: whiteal (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Esran (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: wiudad09 showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 8: harvardpete folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: born4playing showed and won (19970) with a full house, Fives full of Sixes
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Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:48 pm GMT by zinn0
because you lost a 60-40?
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:53 pm GMT by greathuskie
basically :/
i realize i wasnt a huge favorite and its not a bad beat, but its like, i just happen to flop TPTK against his 2 low pair.
suckkkkkkkkks
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:57 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Crap happens...its poker. Chaulk this one up to variance.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:58 pm GMT by mikenike
you didn't raise enough preflop. and it was a coin toss even if he called.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:04 pm GMT by Phil14312
Husky: Your big cards are not going to win every pot, just because they should, does not mean they will
You don't need to take everything that happens at poker as if it actually means something, because, in the long run, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:16 pm GMT by golddog
| Phil14312 wrote: | | You don't need to take everything that happens at poker as if it actually means something, because, in the long run, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't. |
The Tug McGraw Giant Snowball theory!
(He was a baseball relief pitcher years ago who used to tell himself this in pressure situations to loosen up):
1,000,000 years from now, the Earth will be a giant snowball, and nobody will know if I give up a home run or not.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:17 pm GMT by TheSalche
| greathuskie wrote: | | PokerStars Game #5341659086: Tournament #26603917, $3.00+$0.30 |
enuf said
shouldnt this be in "bad beats"?
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:19 pm GMT by zinn0
No, because it's not a bad beat. It's almost standard.
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:30 pm GMT by Icec0o1
When you lose your buyin in a 1/2 NL game three times in a row when you have KK, KK, and QQ to pocket aces in the space of 30 hands, then you can hate the game.
Btw, the first time the guy floped quads and I hit a king on the river...wtf?
Posted Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:33 pm GMT by Icec0o1
Btw, this is 6 person shorthanded table so chances of 1 of 5 people having AA is 280/5 = 56.
The odds of that crap happening to me were 1 in 175k....and I still haven't gotten a royal flush online.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:19 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
excelent play by the villian who caught a hero that wont lay down TPTK
when hes beat
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:59 am GMT by greathuskie
| Jernej Zorec wrote: | excelent play by the villian who caught a hero that wont lay down TPTK
when hes beat |
you wouldnt lay it down either, especially against this guy 
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:02 pm GMT by Johny
Laying down AK there would be wrong in a $3 MTT.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:22 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
well u provided no reads on the villian,
and he way over reraised you which basicly says i got pair of Aces beat
as for if i would lay it down or not, i dont know , i improved a bit on that lately, specially since this kind of overbets are usually better than pair of aces at least from what i seen in these low mtts lately.
I mean when someone reraises like that u got to think what he has, unless he does it a lot
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:40 pm GMT by greathuskie
what coudl he POSSIBLY be smooth calling with in MP after a 4x raise from EP?
65s doesnt even enter my mind
if he called with A5 or A6, im paying him off, but tahts extremely unlikely.
that left me with the conclusion he had A9-AJ...both of which i had beat.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:26 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
He DID have a huge stack of chips though, as well as position, both of which make his hand look more and more favorable. Also, if you've been playing tight, he might think he can maneuver you out of a pot, which he would have if no A or K came. If he had fewer than 16,000 or so chips, I'd say it might be a bad play, but he made a LAG play and got rewarded for it... I might have done the same thing in his shoes.
I can't really fault you for your play, although it you COULD have gotten away from the hand on the flop. But in a $3 tourney, I think folding TPTK there is pretty weak (although I won't say absolutely wrong as Johny did), especially when his hand range is so likely to include a weaker Ace.
But I do think it would be helpful to break your cycle of being a "pre-flop" player. Pre-flop is only one round of a four round game.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:07 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
From my limited observations on poker stars so far, I'd have to say the competition is EXTREMELY weak, especially in the lower limits. I've played a few 1 +.10 sng's and I completely bullied my way to the win. I'd say if you know what you're doing, just play agressive and if you meet with resistance, give it up unless you have close to the nuts. Of the flops I've seen, i've won about 70%, usually with complete garbage. You just gotta figure out which guys are the ones who are gonna bend to your raises, and which ones will follow you to the end with crap, and play accordingly.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:17 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Of course competition is weak in the low limits. Where do you go to find tough small stakes play?
Besides, I think I've read somewhere that PokerStars is actually in the top 3 toughest online casinos as an overall stat, next to UB and another site.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:20 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | Of course competition is weak in the low limits. Where do you go to find tough small stakes play?
Besides, I think I've read somewhere that PokerStars is actually in the top 3 toughest online casinos as an overall stat, next to UB and another site. |
I'm just offering up some advice to husky. When it seems like everyone is playing scared, I loosen up a lot and try picking up a lot of small pots, instead of going for big ones, where I may get lucked out on and lose. So basically, if you can run the table, theres no point risking a bunch of your chips on a marginal hand if you dont have to. If they look weak, bet into them, if they show resistance check it down.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:22 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Fair enough. I've found though that it's typically harder to bluff smaller stakes players off their hands VS higher stakes though.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:36 pm GMT by Johny
| Johny wrote: | | Laying down AK there would be wrong in a $3 MTT. |
In this situation I believe it's wrong, because from my experiance from micro MTTs you're ahead here way too much to fold unless you have a very good read.
EDIT: Huskie had more chips then I thought, but I still think folding is weak.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:29 pm GMT by greathuskie
thats why i was so mad about it, because i had so many chips.
oh well, next time eh.
Posted Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:57 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
u know he could easily flat call with 66 or 88
PS mtts are not so strong as they might apear but becouse of many loose players it is very high variance in mtts, but cash games on Stars are pretty tightish specially compared to some other sites, but play is still bad.
hope this deosnt break any rules, but there is a very good article on pocketfives about current state of play in mtts online
one thing about this hand is i think villian played it good regardless of stakes,
while hero should let go of the hand at higher limits without a read
Posted Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:59 pm GMT by raker69
You had a good hand, better luck next time!
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