Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:49 pm GMT by mikenike
first day back on playing real money and this happens.
***** Hand History for Game 4585331256 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Sat Jun 24 18:43:48 EDT 2006
Table Table 108145 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: DebVines ( $27.21)
Seat 2: Kirtlandpoker ( $6.68)
Seat 3: donkeldav ( $16.61)
Seat 4: brokebackboy ( $27.45)
Seat 5: SheepQueen ( $28.10)
Seat 6: D_I_G2703 ( $28.10)
SheepQueen posts small blind (0.10)
D_I_G2703 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DebVines  
DebVines calls (0.25)
Kirtlandpoker folds.
donkeldav calls (0.25)
brokebackboy folds.
SheepQueen calls (0.15)
D_I_G2703 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** :   
SheepQueen checks.
D_I_G2703 checks.
DebVines bets (0.25)
donkeldav calls (0.25)
SheepQueen calls (0.25)
D_I_G2703 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : 
SheepQueen checks.
DebVines bets (0.25)
donkeldav calls (0.25)
SheepQueen calls (0.25)
** Dealing River ** : 
SheepQueen checks.
DebVines checks.
donkeldav bets (1)
SheepQueen folds.
DebVines calls (1)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $4.30 | Rake: $0.20
Board:
DebVines balance $25.46, lost $1.75 a straight ace to five --
Kirtlandpoker balance $6.68, didn't bet (folded)
donkeldav balance $19.16, bet $1.75, collected $4.30, net +$2.55   a full house Threes full of fives --
brokebackboy balance $27.45, didn't bet (folded)
SheepQueen balance $27.35, lost $0.75 (folded)
D_I_G2703 balance $27.85, lost $0.25 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 4584410050 *****
0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 25177135) - Sat Jun 24 16:08:37 EDT 2006
Table 3 - Table(746968) Table 1 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: DebVines (1355)
Seat 4: BattleChips (1850)
Seat 5: mpatrick28 (2617)
Seat 6: RiverSkitzo (1951)
Seat 7: tazzmann69 (6012)
Seat 8: shahe_shank (2078)
Seat 9: icemaiv111 (900)
Seat 10: Campmyster (1067)
shahe_shank posts small blind (30)
icemaiv111 posts big blind (60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DebVines  
Campmyster folds.
DebVines raises (120) to 120
BattleChips folds.
mpatrick28 folds.
RiverSkitzo folds.
tazzmann69 calls (120)
shahe_shank: your throwing away my money
shahe_shank calls (90)
Campmyster: lol
icemaiv111 calls (60)
** Dealing Flop ** :   
shahe_shank checks.
icemaiv111 checks.
DebVines bets (125)
tazzmann69 calls (125)
shahe_shank calls (125)
icemaiv111 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : 
Campmyster: no kidding, i will try and save some, lol
shahe_shank checks.
DebVines bets (210)
tazzmann69 folds.
shahe_shank calls (210)
** Dealing River ** :
shahe_shank checks.
DebVines checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1275
Board:
DebVines balance 900, lost 455 two pairs kings and fives --
BattleChips balance 1850, didn't bet (folded)
mpatrick28 balance 2617, didn't bet (folded)
RiverSkitzo balance 1951, didn't bet (folded)
tazzmann69 balance 5767, lost 245 (folded)
shahe_shank balance 2898, bet 455, collected 1275, net +820  three of a kind fives --
icemaiv111 balance 780, lost 120 (folded)
Campmyster balance 1067, didn't bet (folded)
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Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:17 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Those aren't particularly bad beats, and you brought them on yourself by not betting high enough. Min betting is not going to get anyone with any sort of a hand out of a pot.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:19 pm GMT by mikenike
at 10/25 it does.
and explain how that isn't a bad beat.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:25 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
He had 6 outs, two 3's and 4 6's, and he probably thought an ace was good for him as well giving him 10 outs. (You happened to have the ace, but he didnt know that, so he'd assume an ace was good.) My point is, you only bet .25 cents, the size of the big blind.... THAT is NOT a big bet. You need to force people to pay for their draws, he was getting huge odds to call you, and in fact he made the RIGHT call. If you want to win in poker, you can't let people have a chance at making their draws cheaply, and then pay them off when they do hit.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:31 pm GMT by mikenike
there was a 12.5% chance that he would hit http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/glossary.php#Burl
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:45 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Yeah, and the pot was laying him 8 to 1. So he made the right call, even assuming the ace wasnt good for him, which he had no way of knowing. So again, he made the right call.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:51 pm GMT by mikenike
***** Hand History for Game 4586138486 *****
0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 25186652) - Sat Jun 24 20:48:52 EDT 2006
Table Table 95640 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: fivecharacte (2160)
Seat 2: sjb340542 (2545)
Seat 3: DebVines (3196)
Seat 4: bedaddio (2664)
Seat 5: adlind (1435)
sjb340542 posts small blind (20)
DebVines posts big blind (40)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DebVines  
bedaddio folds.
adlind calls (40)
fivecharacte calls (40)
sjb340542 calls (20)
DebVines raises (40) to 80
adlind raises (80) to 120
fivecharacte raises (460) to 500
sjb340542 folds.
DebVines calls (420)
adlind raises (760) to 880
fivecharacte raises (1660) to 2160
fivecharacte is all-In.
DebVines calls (1660)
adlind calls (555)
adlind is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $4345 with adlind
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1450 with fivecharacte
** Dealing Flop ** : 
** Dealing Turn ** :
** Dealing River ** : 
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4345 | Side Pot 1: 1450 |
Board:
fivecharacte balance 1450, bet 2160, collected 1450, lost -710   a pair of queens --
sjb340542 balance 2505, lost 40 (folded)
DebVines balance 1036, lost 2160 a pair of eights --
bedaddio balance 2664, didn't bet (folded)
adlind balance 4345, bet 1435, collected 4345, net +2910   a straight ace to five --
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:52 pm GMT by mikenike
and that?
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:56 pm GMT by mikenike
is it not a bad beat either? mr.iknoweverything
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:00 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
you went all in against 2 other ppl with 88. Thats not a bad beat, thats a bad play.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:32 pm GMT by mikenike
jeff i see you, critize everyones play, but do you even play poker? or are you a Mike the mouth announcer telling everyone they suck?
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:45 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Don't take it personally, I'm just giving you tough love. If you listen and actually consider some of the things I'm saying, it'll help your game out. You generally don't want to go heads up against 2 ppl unless you have a really strong hand, 88 does not qualify as a really strong hand. In the example you gave, you only had about a 20% chance to win the pot. And in the case where you had trip 5s, you only bet 25 cents into a 2 dollar pot. Thats giving the right odds for anyone with a straight draw to call you.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:47 pm GMT by Johny
If you don't want people responding to your threads then don't make them. He was just giving you some advice.
Posted Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:59 pm GMT by mikenike
facuk, cant get a break!!!
i have 10A guy raises ot 150 preflop
i call.
flop comes 10 blank 10
turn a blank
river a 5
he flips over 5,5 to give him a full house over my trips.
fauck cant get a break.
if someone wanted to find the most
f*ck up pokerroom. id refer them to partypoker.
Posted Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:03 am GMT by Hurricane Ham
You may have gotten those garbage hands to fold if you didn't absolutely butcher every street.
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