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Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:30 am GMT by MrDarling
Hi ,
In EP which hands will you limp in with ? (Im talking weak hands as well as strong)
And in LP , if no one else raise ?
Thanks
Danny
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Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:36 am GMT by shorn7
What is the game? Liming hands in NLHE are much different than those in LHE.
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:26 am GMT by supafrey
limp in playing 200NL and up...
23s-KQs
24s-JKs
22-TT
47s-TKs
9Ks
Axs
Kxs
89o-QKo
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:58 am GMT by MrDarling
I mean NL and edited the title to refelct that.
so superfly, what do you do with these hands when there is a normal raise (3-4XBB) before you . Which ones you raise, call and fold?
Thanks.
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:02 pm GMT by shorn7
limp in playing 200NL and up...
23s-KQs
24s-JKs
22-TT
47s-TKs
9Ks
Axs
Kxs
89o-QKo
Supa- You serious about all of these??
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:42 pm GMT by kingetje
| MrDarling wrote: |
so superfly, |
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:50 pm GMT by MasterShake
| MrDarling wrote: | I mean NL and edited the title to refelct that.
so superfly, what do you do with these hands when there is a normal raise (3-4XBB) before you . Which ones you raise, call and fold?
Thanks. |
I'd fold all of those hands to a raise in EP except maybe 8 8-10 10 and KQs depending on the raisor.
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:09 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| shorn7 wrote: | | Supa- You serious about all of these?? |
He plays a lot of hands.
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:20 pm GMT by shorn7
Dam, I guess. Wish I felt good enough about my post flop game to play that many. Good for him...
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:41 pm GMT by Dias
| kingetje wrote: | | MrDarling wrote: |
so superfly, |
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ok...thats awesome...
Posted Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:10 pm GMT by supafrey
:O
better than supra, which i've also heard.
And yeah, that's about right.
For calling raises I usally tighten up a little bit.
42s-AQs
32s-Aks
QJo-AKo
Axs
Kxs
22-AA
Posted Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:59 am GMT by Eusebio
Ok, so those are your EP limp Hands.
What happens if somebody raises in MP or LP, are you just folding then?
I know that depends very much on who raises etc., but I mean in general. Are you saying: Well, these hands are worth a BB and if it should be more I fold, or would you see the flop with those hands? lets say they raised the min.
Posted Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:15 am GMT by supafrey
| supafrey wrote: |
For calling raises I usally tighten up a little bit.
42s-AQs
32s-Aks
QJo-AKo
Axs
Kxs
22-AA |
Posted Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:52 am GMT by 72o
Classic limping hands are small or medium pocked pairs and suited connectors. You hope to hit a set, a flush or straight and win a big pot against many callers.
"Limping in" means to see the flop cheaply. Ideally by calling just the big blind. Limping in from early position is a contratiction in itself. You don't know wether a player will raise after you. Even worse, one of your opponents may be tempted to raise with a medicore hand because he expects your hand to be even weaker. With his raise he drives out the other players and if you call you are heads-on with a better hand than yours.
Posted Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:59 pm GMT by groton
thats why SUPA is who he is.
by thay Limping hands for me
are
67S-KQs
79s-JKS
22-88(pocket Pair abouth a 8 is a raising hand  )
910os-A6os
any Axs
thats about it
Posted Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:27 pm GMT by MrDarling
Wow, I really need to check my game .
I actually raise with KQs, pp and even Axs
I don't play Axo or most off suited connectors.
as for suited connectors, I'm also not crazy about them, I might limp from late position or even call a small raise, but usually I prefer to dump them preflop.
I'm really not comfortable playing small flush. Is it just me, and is it really wrong?
Posted Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:39 pm GMT by groton
| MrDarling wrote: | Wow, I really need to check my game .
I actually raise with KQs, pp and even Axs
I don't play Axo or most off suited connectors.
as for suited connectors, I'm also not crazy about them, I might limp from late position or even call a small raise, but usually I prefer to dump them preflop.
I'm really not comfortable playing small flush. Is it just me, and is it really wrong? |
nah you sound like your playing soild
me and SUPA and alot of us others here play kinda cheeky since we can normoly out play the AVG player postflop.
Posted Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:09 pm GMT by tame_deuces
It really depends on the table and what kind of players you are seated with. What works in some conditions may be inherently wrong with other players/stacksizes/average potsizes.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:02 am GMT by Incognito129
| supafrey wrote: | limp in playing 200NL and up...
23s-KQs
24s-JKs
22-TT
47s-TKs
9Ks
Axs
Kxs
89o-QKo |
what does he mean by 23s-KQs? Any possible combo inbetween, cause that seems like alot.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:07 am GMT by Skribbles
| Incognito129 wrote: | | supafrey wrote: | limp in playing 200NL and up...
23s-KQs
24s-JKs
22-TT
47s-TKs
9Ks
Axs
Kxs
89o-QKo |
what does he mean by 23s-KQs? Any possible combo inbetween, cause that seems like alot. |
No. He means connected hands by 23s-KQs.
23s-34s-45s-56s-67s-etc...
24s-KJs = 24s-35s-46s... etc
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:23 am GMT by Incognito129
| Skribbles wrote: | | Incognito129 wrote: | | supafrey wrote: | limp in playing 200NL and up...
23s-KQs
24s-JKs
22-TT
47s-TKs
9Ks
Axs
Kxs
89o-QKo |
what does he mean by 23s-KQs? Any possible combo inbetween, cause that seems like alot. |
No. He means connected hands by 23s-KQs.
23s-34s-45s-56s-67s-etc...
24s-KJs = 24s-35s-46s... etc |
Oh ok. So what does 24s-JKs and 47s-TKs mean?
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:30 am GMT by MrDarling
24 up to JK are two cards separated with only one card.
47 up to TK are two cards separated by 3 cards. All have a str8 potential.
But to be honest, if you don't know that by now, best not play them.
Most of us are not as lose as Supa is ...
I rarely play low connected cards and even more rarely low 1 card separated connectors (is there a name for those)
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:42 am GMT by Incognito129
| MrDarling wrote: | 24 up to JK are two cards separated with only one card.
47 up to TK are two cards separated by 3 cards. All have a str8 potential.
But to be honest, if you don't know that by now, best not play them.
Most of us are not as lose as Supa is ...
I rarely play low connected cards and even more rarely low 1 card separated connectors (is there a name for those) |
what do you mean "if you don't know that by now", how do you know how long i've played lol.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:34 am GMT by MrDarling
This is not meant as an insult or an imply you don't know the game.
Thing is Supa is a very lose player. If you don't see the statue of the above pairs of card (suited connectors , 1 card removed suited connectors etc...) I did assume you are not playing the game that long , hence I recommend you didn't play them most of the time.
No offense intended what so ever.
Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:42 pm GMT by Loonbat
| MrDarling wrote: | 24 up to JK are two cards separated with only one card.
47 up to TK are two cards separated by 3 cards.
I rarely play low connected cards and even more rarely low 1 card separated connectors (is there a name for those) |
Suited one, two and three gaps are the "official" names.
Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:00 pm GMT by UrAteUp
I play so damn tight then I rarely play anything under a pp or AX in EP. Oh well...to me tight is right. Keeps my roll in the positive side and nmot the negative side....
Seriously I usually only play top 10 hands in EP, top 20 in MP and about any in LP.
Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:29 pm GMT by MrDarling
what is any in LP?
Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:39 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| MrDarling wrote: | | what is any in LP? |
If the pot is unraised the top tens hands in LP I will raise with, small pp I will limp with, anything I am not sure about I limp with.
Posted Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:35 am GMT by MrDarling
Well, thats far from any..
With the above stated hands I'll do the same from MP and often from EP.
Now I might start limping in with un suited high connectors , two face cards etc..
Posted Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:58 am GMT by tame_deuces
Just raise most of the time when playing these. Offsuit unconnected high cards suck in limpfests IMHO.
They're marginal winners at best, but are ok for throwing in some more hands into the raising ranges so we don't look like rocks - if we happen to be at a table were we think people notice these things.
Posted Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:00 am GMT by Crazy Poker Guy
Play it safe with Those middle cards like 8,9 10,jack don't get sucked into the river with these hands!
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:12 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| Crazy Poker Guy wrote: | | Play it safe with Those middle cards like 8,9 10,jack don't get sucked into the river with these hands! |
In general this is pretty incorrect advice.
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:07 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| tame_deuces wrote: | | It really depends on the table and what kind of players you are seated with. What works in some conditions may be inherently wrong with other players/stacksizes/average potsizes. |
QFT.
I love suited connectors, but there are so many variables, that I cannot make a specific statement regarding with which hands I would limp. Generally, I try not to get sucked into too many hands out of position unless I'm at a very weak table and know that they can be outplayed postflop.
Posted Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:35 pm GMT by TheSalche
Re-iterate this point ...
supafrey limps with those hands because he is a good post flop player and knows when hes beat/knows how strong his opponents are/knows how to extract value when he hits with those types of hands.
In full ring play (9 or 10 players) you should really only be limping with medium and/or low pocket pairs, suited connectors, and you should be raising with your premium hands. That will help you get used to playing at the lower limits.
Once your postflop skills improve you can start loosening up your ranges.
In short handed games, you should almost NEVER limp, always raise or fold when you OPEN the pot (nobody except the blinds in before you).
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