what is it with flush draws? |
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Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:25 am GMT by greathuskie
Table '27571403 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tsiguy96 (2340 in chips)
Seat 2: bugsbagsby (3660 in chips)
bugsbagsby: posts small blind 20
tsiguy96: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tsiguy96  
bugsbagsby: raises 80 to 120
tsiguy96: raises 280 to 400
bugsbagsby: calls 280
*** FLOP ***   
tsiguy96: checks
bugsbagsby: bets 360
tsiguy96: raises 1580 to 1940 and is all-in
bugsbagsby: calls 1580
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tsiguy96: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
bugsbagsby: shows   (a flush, Ace high)
tsiguy96 said, "wtf"
tsiguy96 said, "are you serious"
bugsbagsby collected 4680 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4680 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: tsiguy96 (big blind) showed and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: bugsbagsby (button) (small blind) showed and won (4680) with a flush, Ace high
people NEVER fold them? i dont understand the obsession of putting all your chips in on a draw. i really dont get it.
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Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:28 am GMT by dave374000
Because the 35% odds of hitting your flush are very enticing to many people ... especially if they're on a nut flush draw.
It's a quick and painless way to get a lot of chips.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:50 am GMT by greathuskie
lets add one more for the road
PokerStars Game #5459184019: Tournament #27572808, $5.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level I (20/40) - 2006/07/05 - 01:49:32 (ET)
Table '27572808 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: erik127 (3640 in chips)
Seat 2: tsiguy96 (2360 in chips)
erik127: posts small blind 20
tsiguy96: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tsiguy96  
erik127: raises 80 to 120
tsiguy96: raises 2240 to 2360 and is all-in
erik127: calls 2240
tsiguy96 said, "5"
*** FLOP ***  
tsiguy96 said, "see"
tsiguy96 said, "every game"
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER *** 
tsiguy96 said, "every game"
tsiguy96 said, "it never fails"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tsiguy96: shows (a pair of Aces)
erik127: shows   (two pair, Aces and Fives)
erik127 collected 4720 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4720 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: erik127 (button) (small blind) showed and won (4720) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: tsiguy96 (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:53 am GMT by supafrey
please commit suicide already
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:53 am GMT by greathuskie
after hands like these, its tempting.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:56 am GMT by greathuskie
oh well. back to no more depositing  .
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:05 am GMT by greathuskie
WAIT
ONE MORE FOR YA
Table '27573450 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tsiguy96 (420 in chips)
Seat 2: Aquatic Cat (2580 in chips)
Aquatic Cat: posts small blind 10
tsiguy96: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tsiguy96 
Aquatic Cat: calls 10
tsiguy96: raises 400 to 420 and is all-in
Aquatic Cat: calls 400
*** FLOP ***  
tsiguy96 said, "hahahahahah"
tsiguy96 said, "every ****ing time"
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER ***
tsiguy96 said, "doesnt fail"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tsiguy96: shows (high card Ace)
Aquatic Cat: shows  (a pair of Kings)
Aquatic Cat collected 840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 840 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: tsiguy96 (big blind) showed and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Aquatic Cat (button) (small blind) showed and won (840) with a pair of Kings
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:24 am GMT by Phil14312
Every poker player goes through these beats, every day, usually many many times a day, its nothing that really unique to you or anyone here.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:48 am GMT by greathuskie
im not saying it is, im just "telling a tale" of waht happened to me tonight.
btw, these are the only tourneys i played today  .
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:13 am GMT by greathuskie
Table '27575116 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: weakkid (2660 in chips)
Seat 2: tsiguy96 (3340 in chips)
weakkid: posts small blind 20
tsiguy96: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tsiguy96  
weakkid said, "lol didn't think A/3 was raise worthy"
weakkid: calls 20
tsiguy96: checks
*** FLOP ***  
tsiguy96: bets 160
weakkid: raises 2460 to 2620 and is all-in
tsiguy96: calls 2460
weakkid said, "shyt"
*** TURN ***
weakkid said, "what a waste"
*** RIVER *** 
weakkid said, "why did I do that"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tsiguy96: shows (a flush, Ten high)
weakkid: shows  (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
weakkid said, "oh no"
tsiguy96 said, " WTF"
weakkid collected 5320 from pot
tsiguy96 said, "OMFG"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5320 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: weakkid (button) (small blind) showed and won (5320) with a full house, Eights full of Fives
Seat 2: tsiguy96 (big blind) showed and lost with a flush, Ten high
i cant win.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:44 am GMT by MrDarling
ok, here are my comments. keep in mind that I pretty much suck when it comes to playing, but I'm pretty good at analyzing someone else's game
First hand : As much as I love to slow play a top set, if there is flush draw I will try not to. A check raise in these level can is not an aggressive players. Most layers wont see it as a aggressive but as an attempt in a bluff , semi-bluff or a draw your self. Also, to give him credit, he had you covered by a little. Even if he loses it seems like the tourney is still in the beginning stages and he has a shot at gaining it all back. So its not a total donk move.
I hope you didn't blew away all your present money already
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:45 pm GMT by Moon_Child
i only chase the flush draw when i get the right odds to call...
i usually don't call big bets to chase them for no reason.
so next time u have a hand, BET HARD on flop and if u see a heart.dont be stubborn and lay the hand down if u think ur beat
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:49 pm GMT by UrAteUp
First hand...the guy donked you. All the rest...are just typical poker hands. Get used to them Husky and stop playing junk hands like that last one. Jeeez son, you try to make roses out of crap....stop it.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:50 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| greathuskie wrote: | im not saying it is, im just "telling a tale" of waht happened to me tonight.
btw, these are the only tourneys i played today . |
You're a broken record. Please stop.
Please.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:12 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Some day, our young apprentice will learn that once he gets his money in with the best hand, the game is over. Results are irrelevant if you're playing to maximize your expectation. The odds will eventually take care of themselves.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:16 pm GMT by TxShadow
| UrAteUp wrote: | | Get used to them Husky and stop playing junk hands like that last one. Jeeez son, you try to make roses out of crap....stop it. |
In all fairness, on the last hand he was in the BB, saw a free flop, and flopped the flush.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:23 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| TxShadow wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: | | Get used to them Husky and stop playing junk hands like that last one. Jeeez son, you try to make roses out of crap....stop it. |
In all fairness, on the last hand he was in the BB, saw a free flop, and flopped the flush. |
I can agree with that one as well...Husky...try this move...next time you want to push all-in...think for a second and visualize the nut hand for the board...ask yourself...do I have that hand?...if the answer is yes then push away...if the answer is no...think about betting less...
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:43 pm GMT by Hurricane Ham
Or just stop playing poker. Forever.
Or at least don't start useless threads because you keep losing and want sympathy.
Posted Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:22 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| Hurricane Ham wrote: | Or just stop playing poker. Forever.
Or at least don't start useless threads because you keep losing and want sympathy. |
See, huskie is the unluckiest player ever. This is why he loses. What part of this advanced thoery is so difficult for everyone to understand?
Posted Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:50 pm GMT by greathuskie
those were the only 4 SNGs i played the entire night, and got outdrawn each one, it was like unreal when the last one happened. oh well, shit happens 
Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:06 am GMT by ki_cz
It's a bitch, seriously.
2 hands today,
A/K suited in bb, raise to $1.50 (.10/.25) table ... flop hits A/Kx. X is the villains suit, calls my push, has 10/6, hits his flush.
Same villain, same situation, except this time I have A/J and raise to $1.25, villain calls with his 9/4 suited ... hits it on the river. I ended up tilting a few buy-ins after that ...
Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:17 am GMT by UrAteUp
| ki_cz wrote: | It's a bitch, seriously.
2 hands today,
A/K suited in bb, raise to $1.50 (.10/.25) table ... flop hits A/Kx. X is the villains suit, calls my push, has 10/6, hits his flush.
Same villain, same situation, except this time I have A/J and raise to $1.25, villain calls with his 9/4 suited ... hits it on the river. I ended up tilting a few buy-ins after that ... |
Keep track of these players...anyone who will call a 6xBB bet with 2 suited cards will eventually pay you off in the long run.
Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:59 am GMT by ki_cz
| UrAteUp wrote: | | ki_cz wrote: | It's a bitch, seriously.
2 hands today,
A/K suited in bb, raise to $1.50 (.10/.25) table ... flop hits A/Kx. X is the villains suit, calls my push, has 10/6, hits his flush.
Same villain, same situation, except this time I have A/J and raise to $1.25, villain calls with his 9/4 suited ... hits it on the river. I ended up tilting a few buy-ins after that ... |
Keep track of these players...anyone who will call a 6xBB bet with 2 suited cards will eventually pay you off in the long run. |
Just not today I guess.
:D
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