$1/2 NL, Pkt Aces- step-by-step |
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:08 am GMT by efram
How do you play this hand out. Villian was semi LAG, showing strong hands, betting hard at times and also folding when he didn't have a hand and someone else showed aggression.
PokerStars Game #5512196845: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/07/10 - 04:51:56 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: daflopone ($88.05 in chips)
Seat 2: alainlapaire ($653.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Efram ($201.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Joepilot40 ($131.95 in chips)
Seat 6: MK_Ruthless ($200 in chips)
Joepilot40: posts small blind $1
MK_Ruthless: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Efram  
daflopone: folds
alainlapaire: raises $4 to $6
Efram ?
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:21 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Reraise pot
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:52 am GMT by Tadzio
what sean said.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:47 am GMT by shorn7
Re-raise is definitely in order. Somewhere close to the size of the pot. Another alternative is a big overbet which if he is really laggy he might view as a steal and you might get him to come over you again. He might also come over you again with AK, KK and QQ so this overbet might give you the chance to get it all-in preflop.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:11 am GMT by crack
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | Reraise pot |
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:49 am GMT by zinn0
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | Reraise pot |
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:03 am GMT by UrAteUp
| zinn0 wrote: | | Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | Reraise pot |
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:03 am GMT by UrAteUp
| zinn0 wrote: | | Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | Reraise pot |
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:19 am GMT by supafrey
A raise to 15 is probably a bit much, guys.
I'd sneaky call!
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:27 am GMT by khaosanroad
| supafrey wrote: | A raise to 15 is probably a bit much, guys.
I'd sneaky call! |
If he plays as described, I'd call and let him bet into me. I smell QQ or a steal attempt.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:53 am GMT by MrDarling
I've learnt not to slow play pocket A's the hard way. I'll always reraise. I want him to call, but no one else.
Unless I hit a set on the flop, I'm raising again, big time.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:24 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
| MrDarling wrote: | I want him to call, but no one else.
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Which is why I like a pot sized raise here. If I were the last to act and we were heads up, then I definitely think a smooth call would be in order. Just too many people behind and a call increases their odds to play the "ace crackin" hands.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:32 pm GMT by Icec0o1
I'm most likely min raising here which is close to the pot but doesn't yell out I have A's or K's!
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:50 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Icec0o1 wrote: | | I'm most likely min raising here which is close to the pot but doesn't yell out I have A's or K's! |
dead kitten
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by Johny
Raise to $18.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:20 pm GMT by efram
Supa had my thoughts
| Quote: | A raise to 15 is probably a bit much, guys.
I'd sneaky call! |
I know I should have re-raised pre-flop, but I figured I might kill some action so I smooth called.
I didn't want to push him out if he was stealing, and I also felt if the pot was more multi than I was comfortable and I missed the flop really bad I would be willing to get away without losing too much. I'd folded aces previously and was ready to get out if board got flushy or str8-y.
Risking cracked Aces seemed worth it to me here so I smooth called in order to bloat the pot. Normally, I would re-raise but this time I felt like taking a chance in order to bloat the pot and disguise my hand.
Fortuneatly only 1 caller behind so my smooth call did exactly what I wanted, a little more action and completely disguised my monster.
Next step
PokerStars Game #5512196845: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/07/10 - 04:51:56 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: daflopone ($88.05 in chips)
Seat 2: alainlapaire ($653.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Efram ($201.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Joepilot40 ($131.95 in chips)
Seat 6: MK_Ruthless ($200 in chips)
Joepilot40: posts small blind $1
MK_Ruthless: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Efram
daflopone: folds
alainlapaire: raises $4 to $6
Efram: calls $6
Joepilot40: calls $5
MK_Ruthless: folds
*** FLOP ***   
Joepilot40: checks
alainlapaire: bets $12
Efram ?
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:37 pm GMT by arras
Raise $36 - 40.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:01 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I'd fold. Your smooth call clearly let the 44 catch up, and you're drawing almost dead to a set...ok, maybe not.
This is where I'd just call. The board isn't too scary.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:03 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
Make it $40-$42. If Villain was stealing, a call by you here will likely throw up a Red Flag and you wouldn't win any more money out of him anyways. If he had a monster to begin with (KK, QQ, etc.) then I think he is paying off your raise here with all these under cards.
I still dont know what to think about the Small Blind though. Interested to see what happens next.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:37 pm GMT by Johny
I just call here.
If he just has overcards he may fire again on the turn or he may catch up.
If you raise on the flop, you're forcing him to have a hand to get any action.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:25 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Call here. Your either already behind or your ahead still.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:27 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| UrAteUp wrote: | | Call here. Your either already behind or your ahead still. |
Or maybe the other guy has AA as well so you're not behind or ahead!! :D
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: | | Call here. Your either already behind or your ahead still. |
Or maybe the other guy has AA as well so you're not behind or ahead!! :D |
Actually last time I had AA and tried playing it like this I wound up running into quad 8s. That's why anymore an 8 on the board scares me and 2 on the board usually gets me to lay down even AA... 
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:21 pm GMT by efram
I love the rainbow flop here. I don't want to bet Villian out of the pot so I only doubled his raise hoping for a call. If he's trying to steal, and outplay me, if I bet anymore I think he folds. Here I give him the chance to catch a draw so my re-raise was small. maybe I should have gone up $36 - $40, but... again, I wanted him to call, which he did. Is this considered a min raise since its the least amount I can raise? dead kitten? I sure hope not, I like kittens.
Anyway, at this point I figure I'm ahead to an overpair possibly drawing to a set of 8's at worst. I don't think Villian would have raised pre-flop with anything less than 8's. I think if he had a set of 8's here, he re-raises my re-raise. After he calls my re-raise I put him on an overpair here 99 1010 JJ, and a big dog to my AA. I think with QQ KK or even AA, he re-raises my re-raise here as well as I just don't think he could put me on AA.
If he's got AK, AQ, KQ he may lay down to big aggression on my part which I don't want so I think doubling his raise was a decent play. Thoughts on that?
I know I'm giving him a slight chance to catch a set here (if he doesn't already have it, which I seriously doubt the way its played so far), but with those percentages, less than 10% turn/river to catch his set, I'm willing to keep him in for the risk. Is this a good play?
Pot's at $68
What next.
PokerStars Game #5512196845: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/07/10 - 04:51:56 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: daflopone ($88.05 in chips)
Seat 2: alainlapaire ($653.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Efram ($201.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Joepilot40 ($131.95 in chips)
Seat 6: MK_Ruthless ($200 in chips)
Joepilot40: posts small blind $1
MK_Ruthless: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Efram
daflopone: folds
alainlapaire: raises $4 to $6
Efram: calls $6
Joepilot40: calls $5
MK_Ruthless: folds
*** FLOP ***
Joepilot40: checks
alainlapaire: bets $12
Efram: raises $12 to $24
cd1971 has returned
Joepilot40: folds
alainlapaire: calls $12
*** TURN *** 
alainlapaire: checks
Efram ?
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:28 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I'd throw a small bet out, 1/4-1/3 the pot. It may look like you're buying it and get him to play back.
And, yes, dead kittens +1.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:46 pm GMT by efram
Here is the entire hand as it played out. Happens to be the largest pot I've ever won. I wasn't betting hard in case he was slowplaying a set of 8's and I also didn't want to bet him out. Should I have pushed on the river? I can't see him calling but you never know.
Thoughts on the way I played it?
Dealt to Efram
daflopone: folds
alainlapaire: raises $4 to $6
Efram: calls $6
Joepilot40: calls $5
MK_Ruthless: folds
*** FLOP ***
Joepilot40: checks
alainlapaire: bets $12
Efram: raises $12 to $24
cd1971 has returned
Joepilot40: folds
alainlapaire: calls $12
*** TURN ***
alainlapaire: checks
Efram: bets $38
alainlapaire: calls $38
*** RIVER *** 
alainlapaire: checks
Efram: bets $30 -is this a good amount for a value bet?
alainlapaire: calls $30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Efram: shows (a pair of Aces)
alainlapaire: mucks hand
Efram collected $202 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $204 | Rake $2
Board
Seat 1: daflopone folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alainlapaire mucked  
Seat 3: Efram (button) showed and won ($202) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Joepilot40 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: MK_Ruthless (big blind) folded before Flop
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:39 am GMT by MrDarling
Good read and good play. I think the last bet could have been a tad bigger tough, but then again, depend on the player your facing.
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:20 am GMT by Dat_Dude
I like that river bet actually. Sure, you might have been able to squeeze another $10 out of him, but at the same time it is a safe bet in case he is holding 77.
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