Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:02 pm GMT by Nihil75
Just wondering, what do you guys do during a downswing or a streak of cold cards? Do you just play through it or do you find something else to occupy your time?
I'm on a pretty massive downswing at the moment and it's really getting to me. I'm catch myself worrying about the money a lot and I can't seem to catch a break. Any tips?
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:09 pm GMT by TxShadow
| Nihil75 wrote: | | I'm catch myself worrying about the money a lot and I can't seem to catch a break |
First of all, make sure that you're playing within your bankroll. If you're worrying about money, perhaps move down in stakes a bit until you get back to where you feel comfortable?
Other than that, maybe try to learn a different game while you're waiting out your streak. If you normally play hold 'em, try some 7-card stud or some Omaha. Maybe even try out Backgammon or something  .
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:10 pm GMT by Nihil75
| TxShadow wrote: | | Nihil75 wrote: | | I'm catch myself worrying about the money a lot and I can't seem to catch a break |
First of all, make sure that you're playing within your bankroll. If you're worrying about money, perhaps move down a bit? |
Bankroll isn't an issue, playing 10NL with $200+
I think I'll try some Omaha, that sounds kind of fun. Thanks for the tip.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:02 pm GMT by Soup_dog
I try to switch games. If one isn't working, I try something else.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:32 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Actually, I'd suggest moving down in stakes as well.
3 days ago I was feeling the same way as you are now. I moved down one buyin for my SnGs and have placed in 4 in a row.
Regardless of what you do though, gl.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:41 pm GMT by lwestatbus
At 3 AM Saturday morning I went into the site admin web site and used the Responsible Gaming feature to lock myself out for a week. They probably think I'm some wacko gambling addict (well, come to think of it I am) but I'm not bleeding money so much as I'm bleeding time. And in the middle of a month-long downswing.
So I decided to force a break. I regret it every day but that's life. I'll let you know if anything changes when my self-imposed ban is up.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:42 pm GMT by Johny
What site was that on?
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:47 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Tips for downswings
1) Tighten up starting hand requirements.
2) Check hand histories to make sure your play has not altered or to look for any leaks/weaknesses.
3) Drop down in levels. If your playing $1/2 then drop to $0.50/$1 or lower.
4) Do a virgin sacrafice to the poker gods....(this is after all other methods have failed...good luck finding one around these bonus whores...  ).
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:07 pm GMT by lwestatbus
Not sure if Johny's question was for me or not but it was PokerRoom.
UrAteUp: You left out drinking heavily.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:08 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| lwestatbus wrote: | | UrAteUp: You left out drinking heavily. |
Doesn't cure the downswing, but you care a lot less.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:12 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | lwestatbus wrote: | | UrAteUp: You left out drinking heavily. |
Doesn't cure the downswing, but you care a lot less. |
Both quoted for truth. Or if drinking isn't your thing then try the good ole "Hippy Cabbage"... 
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:05 pm GMT by crack
Two downswings
One: cold cards/second best hands etc
Two: bad play on your part
If its 1 then just stick at it if 2 then take a break and regroup.
Thats basically it in its simplest form.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:31 pm GMT by Ryan231
I sometimes fall into little downswings here and there but I've been able to identify why a lot of these types of things happen to me personally. I've found that after playing at the same limits and being a consistant winner at them I start to expect to win. Sometimes I'll get bored of the limits I'm playing at and start playing them very stupidly, for example I may start running stupid bluffs or forcing plays because I just want action. Other times I'll get a big stack and start playing very over aggressive because quite frankly I love to play.
Theres are several solutions for this type of thing I've found to work
1) Change the game, maybe try cash games if your a tournament player or Limit if your a NL player. I find this works because now you not a "pro" at this new game, you'll play a bit more smart I find and really concentrate more.
2) Play a big tournament, lookup a nice 30+3 or 50+5 or whatever MTT (I love the deepstacks) and set the date for a week in advance and don't play until then. Set aside an evening to play this big tournament. It may be above your BR but if you don't play for a week and your losing then you can afford to play this if you don't play 5 of your 10+1 games.
3) Buy a new book and read up a bit, learn something new and come back to the game in a week with a new perspective or idea that might intrigue you to play better poker.
There are times when the cards run cold I will admit, but more often than not from what I've seen someone has a bad night or two and then lets it distort their thinking and causes a bad run. For me its just a mental thing, when I sit down and really want to play and play well I can, doesn't matter if I'm not getting the best cards. Motivation to play solid poker is what makes a good player, lack of motivation and falling into a set routine where poker becomes something other than fun is what causes bad play IMO.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:41 pm GMT by supafrey
since when has a player been able to determine whether losses are from bad play / cards?
i haven't seen one.
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:58 pm GMT by ScanX
| supafrey wrote: | since when has a player been able to determine whether losses are from bad play / cards?
i haven't seen one. |
that's called analyzing hand history ?
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:01 pm GMT by supafrey
Yeah - and most of the time analyzing hand histories is pretty useless.
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:41 am GMT by mortaleclipse
| supafrey wrote: | | Yeah - and most of the time analyzing hand histories is pretty useless. |
Got to play the cards when you got them
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:17 pm GMT by crack
| supafrey wrote: | | Yeah - and most of the time analyzing hand histories is pretty useless. |
lol
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:10 pm GMT by khaosanroad
| supafrey wrote: | | Yeah - and most of the time analyzing hand histories is pretty useless. |
agreed, every hand is much more obvious in hindsight.
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:48 pm GMT by crack
| khaosanroad wrote: | | supafrey wrote: | | Yeah - and most of the time analyzing hand histories is pretty useless. |
agreed, every hand is much more obvious in hindsight. |
Depends on the type of player analysing them
Posted Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:00 pm GMT by supafrey
Okay.
Most of the time crack analyzes his hand histories, it's pretty much useless.
Posted Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:42 am GMT by tame_deuces
Analyzing hand histories is useful, but you need to not be results oriented when you do it. Statistical analysis can also be useful but results may be skewered over small samples of hands.
Posted Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:23 pm GMT by supafrey
wait a second.
what does "downswing" mean?
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