Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:38 am GMT by TheSalche
25NL 6-max at party
Villain1 has $20, villian2 has $15, hero covers
Haven't been at the table long, already lost a buy-in when i check raised my top pair twice (4s 9s 10d when i had ace 10) and then lost to a turned/rivered two pair .
Hero dealt 5s 8s in BB
Villain 1 and Villain 2 call and see a flop.
Flop: Qs 9s 5c
hero bets .75, villain1 calls, villain2 raises to $2, hero calls, villain1 raises to $4.50, villain 2 calls, hero pushes and both villains call.
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Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:32 am GMT by Jefecaminador
anyone who doesnt have a set. At least you're getting odds with both going all in.
Very interesting action too. Bet, call, raise, call, raise, call, raise, call call.
Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:57 am GMT by MrDarling
I don't know if donk is the right word, but you're really not phased with your low flush draw?
All you really have is a bottom pair and a low flush draw?
Am not judging, am trying to learn. I just had a similar hand, I raised villain re raised (a lot) so I folded.
I had 62c , called from BB , board was 2s 3c 8c ,
I bet 80% pot, 3 folded one caller
turn 5s
I bet 80% , get checked raised and I fold
bad fold?
Posted Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:53 am GMT by shorn7
These examples all depend on stack sizes of our opponents as well as what their tendencies are with flush draws. I will often move at a pot with a pair + a flush draw, particularly against a preflop raiser. This is a stong hand that if you are behind when ythe $$ goes in, you could have as many as 14 outs twice to win.
That being said, if the money is really deep, then you have to consider hitting your hand and still losing your stack. Again, this is why it is so important to have position with a draw, so that you aren't forced to commit too much $$ to a hand without enough information.
As described, assuming the stacks aren't that deep, I probably try to get it all in on the flop. If someone has a higher flush draw than me, OK. Time to reload. But, you need to make your commit decision on the flop where your odds of getting there are much greater. If you wait until the turn and miss, your opponent will likely put you all-in or you will be in the uncomfortable position of making a big bet with a crappy hand. I don't like either of these options.
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