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$50 SNG hand, need advice please



Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:45 am GMT by Dave B
Blinds 50/100, A Spade 8 Club raise to 250 the big blind and button call.

Flop K Diamond Q Club 5 Diamond

Checked around and the button bets 800 or pot.


What is the correct play here?

Oh-stacks everyone has about the same amount as the start and 8-9 remain.


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Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:43 am GMT by Dat_Dude
I would fold since you are out of position. If you had position on him, I would call that bet and see if he slows down on the turn, but you don't have that luxury here.


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:43 am GMT by Iron Butt
Fold preflop. Razz

Sorry couldn't resist... I must be missing something, that looks like a clear fold to me. There's all kinds of reads and plays you could make, but I'm not sure any of those rise to the level of "correct play".

If you're going to try to stay in that hand why check the flop in the first place rather than a continuation bet?



Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:59 pm GMT by Johny
The way it was played I would fold.

I don't know what the stack sizes were but I don't think you have much fold equity. I would have made a continuation bet of around 1/2 the pot.



Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:29 pm GMT by Phil14312
I fold as well, if he bets 250, pot is getting big enough that he may feel commmitted with just a K. You don't want that.


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:42 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Dave B wrote:

Oh-stacks everyone has about the same amount as the start and 8-9 remain.


So what does that mean for stack size? 3k each? More, less?

It looks like a clear fold to me, your only other option is a check raise, trying to represent AA or KK. But I don't think that will work enough of the time to be profitable.

Villian could be making this play with a ton of hands. He could easily have a K, Q lower pp, straight draw, flush draw, even 2 pair or obviously a complete bluff. Pretty much the only thing I'd rule out is a set. No way he bets pot after the weakness you've shown with something that strong.

But, you gave him a chance to win the pot with a bet and he took it. So unless you have some good info otherwise, you should just let him take it down.



Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:52 pm GMT by Iron Butt
OK but so Dave knows all this stuff already, right? What's the zinger I wonder?


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:56 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
My guess is he check raises all in and the guy calls showing 32 hearts, then hits runner runner straight?


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:16 pm GMT by crack
I don't follow the action here. So 8 or 9 are still left. If so fold A8 preflop.


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:00 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
I'm assuming dave is in late position? CO perhaps. Raising A8 from late isn't a bad play.


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:02 pm GMT by TheSalche
Dave was the button with KQ and was pissed to lose to runner runner aces


Posted Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:40 pm GMT by Dave B
Close, I had the button and bet pot with J Diamond 10 Diamond , the person w/ A8 went all in and it was like 400 more for me to call w/ 15-21 outs. I called and their A8 held up.

It was one of THE MOST RIDICULOUS plays I have ever seen in my life. $50 f*ing SNG, 3500 or so in the pot, last raise was 400 and only A f*ing 8 when you are certain to be called?

What a complete retard. Rolling Eyes






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