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Posted Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:31 pm GMT by StarlightCoast
How much should AQ bhe pushed preflop? Decent play or should I have called the 2 extra bets to see the flop. However in this case the flop would have given me TPTK I would simply have lost more money. But I don't want to get too result oriented here. I want to know in the general sense of good poker playing was my play preflop correct or incorrect.



PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Limit Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q Club , A Diamond .
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 3-bets, 3 folds, SB caps, 1 fold, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) J Spade , 9 Diamond , Q Heart (2 players)
SB bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7 Club (2 players)
SB checks, MP2 bets, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) T Diamond (2 players)
SB checks, MP2 bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
MP2 has Kh Ks (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP2 wins 10.50 BB.


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Posted Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:58 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Player/table dependent, but I don't mind your preflop fold at all. If the AQ is suited and you have some very aggressive preflop players, then I might call the extra two to see a flop. Normally, a cold cap OOP is a pretty strong indicator of a hand though.


Posted Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:12 pm GMT by crack
What sean said. Fold it, it's not that great with that action, unless the players are super lags 3betting and capping with any two


Posted Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:44 pm GMT by lwestatbus
First, what a great post format. I really like the hand synopsis format as opposed to pasting in the hand history. Much easier to follow the main points of the hand. Pasting in the suits also helps.

I LOVE your "results in white" format. This is great and I hope that other posters will adopt the same format. I mean, this is perfect. I get the chance to think about the hand, do some analysis, and then get instant gratification on seeing the results. Really nice and I haven't seen it before.

On the preflop play, calling gives you 5:1 on your money with the strong chance that MP-2 will call and that is pretty good odds with pretty good starting cards. I've had chances to get 7:1 with crappola and cold called a one-bet raise with 6 callers ahead of me. While there are strong indications of some monster hands (subject to your read on the other players as others have noted) the ROI is pretty high. I really consider just gambling when I start seeing 5:1 or 6:1 preflop. Somebody probably knows the break even odds to call with anything. (My favorite was being in the BB w/ 82o, having UTG raise, five callers(!!) so I called. Flop was 222.) But I can't bitch about your decision either. Note that if I'd called, made TP/TK I'd have gone down in spectacular flames.



Posted Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:00 am GMT by kainARGH
Sean_in_NJ wrote:
Player/table dependent, but I don't mind your preflop fold at all. If the AQ is suited and you have some very aggressive preflop players, then I might call the extra two to see a flop. Normally, a cold cap OOP is a pretty strong indicator of a hand though.



Bolded portions are perfect analysis here


Just to second what sean said, if SB is willing to cap it knowing he is oop, it should be AA or KK or QQ.

Unless you specificially put one of them on AA or KK, I think 5 to 1 is enough to call here. Flop I most likly would call sb's bet and fold when other guy raises and sb 3 bet.






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