Posted Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:43 pm GMT by kingetje
Sat down with $20 on this table. some players came and went so no real reads
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Welcome to Planet Earth 10474813-3985 Holdem No Limit $0.10/$0.20
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Hand Start.
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Seat 1 : taffy66 has $13.42
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Seat 2 : Big Pete has $9.83
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Seat 3 : kingetje has $41.92
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Seat 4 : jimmyv has $5.01
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Seat 5 : GunSystem has $29.04
Jul 21 18:27:59 : Seat 6 : Aug1926 has $10.13
Jul 21 18:27:59 : kingetje is the dealer.
Jul 21 18:27:59 : jimmyv posted small blind.
Jul 21 18:28:00 : GunSystem posted big blind.
Jul 21 18:28:00 : Game 3985 started with 6 players.
Jul 21 18:28:00 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Jul 21 18:28:00 : Seat 3 : kingetje has Ad 2h
Jul 21 18:28:04 : Aug1926 folded.
Jul 21 18:28:04 : taffy66 folded.
Jul 21 18:28:07 : Big Pete called $0.20 and raised $0.20
Jul 21 18:28:09 : kingetje called $0.40
Jul 21 18:28:11 : jimmyv called $0.30
Jul 21 18:28:12 : GunSystem called $0.20
Jul 21 18:28:13 : Dealing flop.
Jul 21 18:28:13 : Board cards   
Jul 21 18:28:16 : jimmyv checked.
Jul 21 18:28:19 : GunSystem checked.
Jul 21 18:28:20 : Big Pete checked.
Jul 21 18:28:23 : kingetje bet $1.40
Jul 21 18:28:29 : jimmyv called $1.40
Jul 21 18:28:34 : GunSystem called $1.40 and raised $2.80
Jul 21 18:28:37 : Big Pete called $4.20
Jul 21 18:28:50 : kingetje ???
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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:13 pm GMT by arras
I guess I'm re-raising here. You likely have the best hand unless you got unlucky against AT or set, and I don't want to give anybody any free cards to pair their higher kicker.
Posted Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:17 pm GMT by Johny
I fold preflop.
I reraise to $12 total. If GunSystem calls or comes back over the top then you're probably in trouble.
Posted Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:36 pm GMT by UrAteUp
This is why I hate playing Ax hands. I shy away from these except with position. In your defense you did have position. So I could see playing it. Now you have to stop and think, what hands might make a 2xBB bet pre-flop. If I have no read on this player I always assume them to be playing AX hands. Perhaps he has A10 or perhaps it is 1010 both of which might be more likely to be played with a small raise. Like Johny said make this next bet a good sized one. If he comes over the top then you have a tough choice to make and might be wise to lay this hand down.
Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:41 am GMT by 72o
You made a pot-sized bet and have been raised and the raise has been called. So you are against two opponents who have at least an ace. I wouldn't overestimate a two-pair. Especially if the second pair is only a douce. Without a proper read I would fold and wait for a better opportunity.
Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:02 am GMT by Jefecaminador
The short stack called the raise, I'm not really too concerned about him, if he has you beat so be it. The reraise could easily be coming from a number of hands. AK is a likely holding. I reraise since you're likely not to improve, and you dont wanna give your opponent a free card to beat you.
Btw, calling a raise from MP with A2 is not good imo. You almost need 2 pair to continue with the hand, and as we can see, even when you hit your 2 pair its still a tough decision.
Edit: I just reread the hand. He raised initially. Then check raised you. 9 times out of 10 that means a huge monster. I prolly lay it down.
Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:41 am GMT by kingetje
| Jefecaminador wrote: |
Btw, calling a raise from MP with A2 is not good imo. |
Just to make it clear, I was on the button. 
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:45 am GMT by kingetje
Well, this is what happened;
kingetje called $2.80 and raised $5
Jul 21 18:28:51 : jimmyv folded.
Jul 21 18:28:53 : GunSystem folded.
Jul 21 18:28:55 : Big Pete called $5
Jul 21 18:28:55 : Dealing turn.
Jul 21 18:28:55 : Board cards 
Jul 21 18:28:58 : Big Pete bet $0.23 and is All-in
Jul 21 18:28:59 : kingetje called $0.23
Jul 21 18:28:59 : Showdown!
Jul 21 18:28:59 : Seat 3 : kingetje has Ad 2h
Jul 21 18:29:02 : Seat 2 : Big Pete has Ah 3h
Jul 21 18:29:02 : Seat 3 : kingetje has Ad 2h
Jul 21 18:29:06 : Board cards 
Jul 21 18:29:06 : Seat 2 : Big Pete has Ah 3h
Jul 21 18:29:06 : Big Pete has Two Pair: Aces and 2s
Jul 21 18:29:06 : Seat 3 : kingetje has Ad 2h
Jul 21 18:29:06 : kingetje has Full House : 2s full of Aces
Jul 21 18:29:06 : kingetje wins $24.76 with Full House : 2s full of Aces
Jul 21 18:29:16 : Hand is over.
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:51 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Well thank god for donkeys.
I still don't like the call with A2 though.
I guess the new rule of thumb should be, if you have 2 pair on a small stakes table, go all the way with it.
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:03 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Nice finish King...but I would consider folding A2 in the future...it's not always going to become a winner... 
As for calling this a donkey play Jeff...I really think thats a little harsh. He had two pair. He wasn't raised or pushed to all in. I think it would be wise to make a call here. The only hands beating you at this time are 1010 or A10. When the other 2 hits the only hand you have to worry about someone having is 22 for quads.
Nice read (and alot of luck) by King I think...but like I said...A2 is rarely a winning hand.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:35 am GMT by ki_cz
I'm fairly certain he was calling the villain the donkey. Regardless, I'm rarely calling A2os after a raise unless the player I'm facing is pretty really loose. But if I do call, and I hit my 2-pair with a/10/2 on the board, I'm calling anything. I sure as hell wouldn't put the guy on an a/3, probably an a/k or a/q, but it's happened to me enough to know that a lot of donks will try to pair up their little kicker after the flop and miss.
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