Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:08 am GMT by Biowza
My aces got cracked...
but not by Kings, Queens, or even Jacks...
by 4  5
we both pushed preflop and i was somewhat delighted to see 45...but not for long. He managed to hit the flush....
This seriously made me sick. I can stand getting cracked by other good hands when the players know what they are doing, but getting donked out with hands like that just plain makes me sick...
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Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:01 am GMT by supafrey
it shouldn't. This person was in better shape than if they had KK.
Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:05 am GMT by zinn0
I agree with the supa. While it sucks, it's not as bad as it seems.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:29 am GMT by Gogie
Statistically speaking, the best hand to have if you're against pocket A's (other than having pocket A's yourself) is 8-7 suited (with neither pocket A matching your suit) - it has a 22.9% chance of cracking the A's. Any other combination, including pocket pairs, would stand a lesser chance against the A's.
By the way, 5-4 suited is only 0.5% worse than 8-7 suited against pocket A's.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:18 pm GMT by kainARGH
| Gogie wrote: | Statistically speaking, the best hand to have if you're against pocket A's (other than having pocket A's yourself) is 8-7 suited (with neither pocket A matching your suit) - it has a 22.9% chance of cracking the A's. Any other combination, including pocket pairs, would stand a lesser chance against the A's.
By the way, 5-4 suited is only 0.5% worse than 8-7 suited against pocket A's. |
I thought 56s-89s held the same value for cracking aces?
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:32 pm GMT by Gogie
| kainARGH wrote: | | Gogie wrote: | Statistically speaking, the best hand to have if you're against pocket A's (other than having pocket A's yourself) is 8-7 suited (with neither pocket A matching your suit) - it has a 22.9% chance of cracking the A's. Any other combination, including pocket pairs, would stand a lesser chance against the A's.
By the way, 5-4 suited is only 0.5% worse than 8-7 suited against pocket A's. |
I thought 56s-89s held the same value for cracking aces? |
In "round" numbers 5-6, 6-7 and 7-8 suited are the same odds to win - 22.87%. 8-9 is 22.47% and 9-10 is 22.61%. The actual odds to several decimal places are:
5-6: 22.86872%
6-7: 22.871932%
7-8: 22.873976%
8-9: 22.470776%
9-10: 22.605157%
I'm not sure why 9-10 is higher than 8-9 but I bet someone out there can explain it.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:49 pm GMT by supafrey
9T shouldn't be...
JQK is no longer possible....
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:13 pm GMT by Gogie
| supafrey wrote: | 9T shouldn't be...
JQK is no longer possible.... |
Like I said, I don't know why this is so, but our faithful poker odds calculator says it is (http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/odds-calculator/texas-holdem.php).
I agree with supa: one of the possible straights is counterfeited by AA. Maybe there's a bug in the odds calculator? Someone more mathematically inclined than me will have to figure it out.
P.S. - I just checked out the odds on two other calculators - CardPlayer.com and Twodimes.net - and they both give the same results.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:07 pm GMT by arras
| supafrey wrote: | 9T shouldn't be...
JQK is no longer possible.... |
against AA? why not?
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:13 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
T9 and 98 both can make counterfeited straights, but you need TJQK on board to do it. T9 may be better because one of AA's "outs" is in the opponent's hand.
Just speculating.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:43 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | T9 and 98 both can make counterfeited straights, but you need TJQK on board to do it. T9 may be better because one of AA's "outs" is in the opponent's hand.
Just speculating. |
Bingo
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