Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:23 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
I know this to be a powerful and strong move, but the last bunch of times I've seen it happen, the player has garbage. Take this for example.
PokerStars Game #5649755018: Tournament #28151659, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/07/23 - 00:11:33 (ET)
Table '28151659 128' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Im Rich bia (6116 in chips)
Seat 2: LeafsFan1122 (3357 in chips)
Seat 3: Charbarj41 (18023 in chips)
Seat 4: millerpokerL (24020 in chips)
Seat 5: ChoperMaddux (5745 in chips)
Seat 6: mcmeece (2510 in chips)
Seat 7: SnowMann-II (16015 in chips)
Seat 9: ian1976 (1943 in chips)
LeafsFan1122: posts small blind 100
Charbarj41: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LeafsFan1122 Q  Q 
millerpokerL: calls 200
ChoperMaddux: folds
mcmeece: folds
SnowMann-II: folds
ian1976: folds
Im Rich bia: folds
LeafsFan1122: raises 600 to 800
Charbarj41: folds
VitorLemos is connected
millerpokerL: raises 7800 to 8600
LeafsFan1122 said, "limp reraise"
I'm strongly considering a fold, but I have seen some shifty play from this idiot before.
LeafsFan1122: calls 2557 and is all-in
*** FLOP ***   
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LeafsFan1122: shows   (a pair of Queens)
millerpokerL: shows 4  A (two pair, Aces and Fours)
millerpokerL collected 6914 from pot
WTF is this idiot thinking?
So I guess I'm just wondering in general. When do you know to respect these limp/reraises, and are they good plays to make? I've never personally made one.
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Posted Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:33 pm GMT by khaosanroad
If I have AA in early position and I know someone will most likely raise behind me, then I will do the limp-reraise.
As for your hand. His cards proved your read of him to be correct. he just got lucky. He won't admit it, but he was probably very nervous when you called him.
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:32 pm GMT by flafishy
He was just protecting his sooted A4. 
Seriously, there are a lot of fools out there who consider a suited Ax a monster hand. This guy was probably one of them.
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| flafishy wrote: | He was just protecting his sooted A4.
Seriously, there are a lot of fools out there who consider a suited Ax a monster hand. This guy was probably one of them. |
Oh if you only knew how many think an Ax is unbeatable...but don't tell them differently because they are funding my bankroll nicely... .
As Flafishy says, I will limp from EP with a big PP (AA,KK and sometimes AK) if I know there is a LAG player yet to act. If you see this guy throwing dirt around all the game then I wouldn't be too worried about making this call with QQ. If he had been playing solid poker then yes I would say your better off laying it down to the re-raise.
This guy got lucky and personally I love having these types of donks at a table. They are a sure money source in ring games and a great chip source in SNG or MTT play.
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:47 pm GMT by zinn0
I think he was just playing bigstack poker...
Posted Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:00 pm GMT by dazz057
| zinn0 wrote: | | I think he was just playing bigstack poker... |
I would have to agree with Zinn here. I see this play alot from big stacks at the table with holdings of Ax and low-mid suited connectors. If I have an exceptionally large chip stack in relation to a short stack raiser I will sometimes make this play myself in an attempt to push them out of the pot or get lucky and catch a card or two if they call and absorb their chips.
Mark Seif was making this play left and right at the 2005 U.S Poker Championships left and right with great success.
Posted Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:07 am GMT by shorn7
Yeah, looks like BSP to me too. You can't eliminate him and he can force you to a decision right now. Since it is more likely that you hold unpaired cards than not, he is hoping to take it down with a big raise. This will also disguise for him the next time when he does make this move with AA or KK. Finally, if you don't have an ace, he is at worst a 70/30 dog, so I like his play in this spot.
Posted Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:39 am GMT by ki_cz
He's got an enormous lead over you, I would have done the same thing, and have in the past. Not necessarily even with Ax but even with Kx(9 or higher) suited and some other hands that I like to fool around with. Granted, it's not a foolproof system, but if I have a 8x lead over the raiser and they aren't really a threat, I'm calling.
Posted Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:23 pm GMT by pokerpro888
First hand of a $10 6-man SNG last night I get AKo in BB (15 chips). All 5 people including the SB limp in front of me. So I raise to 150 to see just how good my AKo might be. All fold but the SB. After limping, the SB comes back all over the top for the rest of his 1000 starting stack.
The timing of it just seemed to scream 'steal', so I called and ended up looking down the barrell of the mighty 56 offsuit. He didn't improve and I rivered a K to rub it in.
Results in white following "mighty". Any comments on whether mine - or his- play was good or bad.
Posted Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:08 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Obviously his play was bad. I'm hating the limp reraise more and more and more and more as it keeps blowing up in my face. If I call, they have an excellent hand, if I fold they show 9J.
Posted Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:59 pm GMT by Johny
You invested too much of your stack to fold QQ there. He'll move-in with a wide range of hands because if he's going to play the hand he may as well get it in preflop.
Posted Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:28 am GMT by MrDarling
its one thing (and often smart) to do it if you are the big stack and have a hugh advantage of chips.. Its another thing and totally stupied to do if you are the small stack and you're allin reraise almost forces any hnd to call.
I hate when big stack do it as well - which means I should really start doing it if I'm the big stack.
That said, I've seen big stack leave the table 3 hands after doing move like that. If you are the big stack, and you like to throw chips around, prepar to tighten up once you are no longer the big stack!
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