Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:17 am GMT by Raisor
I have a few examples of what happened at my home game. One player asked another some questions and the way he answered them he was trying to get information. But he folded hid hands both times so I didn't see.
Ex 1. "Do you want me to call?"
"I'm not sure"
Another incident
"I think I have you beat."
"That's damn good thinking."
Then I tried it when I was in with a different player.
"Did you catch the flush?"
"..."
He didn't answer me.
From your experiences.
Would you say they all showed weakness, or were they strength?
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Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:17 am GMT by shorn7
This is hard to say since I don't know your opponents. However, IME I would say it is the delivery of the answer that is more important than the actual words. Watch the body language of the responder as they respond...do they look confident? Did they stumble on the answer? What else are they doing while they are waiting for you to decide to call or not?
This is why it is vital to try and stay consistent as a bettor no matter what hand you have. I also have made it a policy to not answer any questions or give off any additional body language moves when I have bet and someone is deciding whether to call or not. I just stare at whatever the last card dealt on the board was and only focus on that. Let them try and figure out what to do with as little or no information as possible.
Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:28 am GMT by Dave B
I will usually tell people my hand if they ask. That really confuses them.
Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:39 am GMT by arras
I've only used this once in a live game (although I rarely ever play live) and it worked very well. I had a decent hand that was vulnerable and I raised and was reraised and I asked if he had the most likely hand that beat me and watched his initial reaction. He had a quick look of panic and then did the silent stare.
So I dont think you can take what they say as your clue, but take their reaction to what you are saying.
Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:05 pm GMT by BeerWench13
My most common statement/question is "Hmmmm. Only one hand that beats me." Watch their eyes and, if possible, hands when you make that statement. Spoken responses mean nothing compared to the initial facial reaction to that statement.
Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:40 pm GMT by kingetje
Talking during a hand is pretty dangerous.... whenever someone is making a decision in a hand im involved in, i just stare down at the table and never answer any questions or comments the opponent is making.. let em guess
youre better off staying quiet in any circumstance
example:
NL cash game... home game with friends
I had T-9 offsuit with the 10 of spades.
villain raised 3 x BB preflop. flop 6-7-8... with 2 spades. i checked it... and alass, it got checked around
turn was a 3 of spades. i couldnt check anymore and bet out a potsized bet. the villain rased me a solid ammount, it got folded to me and i started to think very hard. it was very possible of course he had made a flush.. but i was just going through the hand in my head trying to figure out what exactly was going on....
and then, as i was taking my time thinking trough my next move, he started talking! "ooohh you shouldnt have checked the flop. you liked your hand but not anymore. its too dangerous" etc etc. right then, i KNEW for sure he didnt have a flush, i moved all-in, he called and showed 6-3 for two pair. his dumb talking gave me all his chips.
same thing that Black guy did at the 2005 ME WSOP final table, every time someone was contemplating making a move on him and he had a great hand, two pair or trips... he started talking and their opponents folded, instead of going all-in like they were thinking about doing. very very bad...
Posted Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:48 pm GMT by BeerWench13
I agree with king that if you've made the bet, saying nothing is always the safest way to go. However, when trying to make a decision of calling/raising, talking can gain a lot of information off of your opponent if you can get them to respond.
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