Posted Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:04 am GMT by MrDarling
fold, call or raise ?
Full Tilt Poker Game #828103935: $1 + $0.25 Sit & Go (Turbo) (5505719), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:26:15 ET - 2006/07/24
Seat 1: MrDarling (2,115)
Seat 2: j9skullmanj9 (2,315)
Seat 3: brentac (1,920)
Seat 4: T200469 (1,050)
Seat 6: mustang1kr (1,785)
Seat 8: tt157 (1,195)
Seat 9: pokerpunk20 (3,120)
brentac posts the small blind of 50
T200469 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrDarling  
mustang1kr folds
tt157 calls 100
pokerpunk20 folds
MrDarling calls 100
j9skullmanj9 calls 100
brentac calls 50
T200469 checks
*** FLOP ***   
brentac checks
T200469 checks
tt157 checks
MrDarling checks
j9skullmanj9 checks
*** TURN *** 
brentac checks
T200469 checks
tt157 bets 100
MrDarling calls 100
j9skullmanj9 folds
brentac folds
T200469 folds
*** RIVER *** 
tt157 bets 700
Hero?
I noticed this game was pretty tight and pretty easy to steal pots , so I limped in more times that I usually do.
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Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:19 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
| MrDarling wrote: | | I noticed this game was pretty tight and pretty easy to steal pots , so I limped in more times that I usually do. |
First off, if you're able to steal, you're much better off trying that as opposed to limping. Limping with such a marginal hand such as KTo with only 20 or so BBs is usually bad.
You have position on the turn, i'll probably raise in this situation as his bet seems weak and your raise would be a semi bluff with still 8 outs for a straight and 3 kings assuming they are good.
On the river you have around 1.9k left, and truth be told I'm not scared of the flush. I'd push.
Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:56 am GMT by UrAteUp
I would be affraid of the flush but I would make the call here. I wouldn't push in case the flush has been made.
Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:05 pm GMT by misterjokerboy
I agree with UrAteUp, I don't think you can fold but don't puch either just in case
Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:09 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
tt only has about 200 left so you might as well push, if he doesnt have the flush hes out and i think that makes up for the times when you'll give him those extra chips.
Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:38 pm GMT by snoogins47
please push here
Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:58 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| snoogins47 wrote: | | please push here |
You wouldn't be affraid of a flush here Snoo? Just wondering why you say to push when the call would help protect chips in case he does have the flush.
Posted Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:02 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| snoogins47 wrote: | | please push here |
quoted ftw
If you're afraid of the runner-runner flush, you need to grow a pair.
Posted Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:15 am GMT by Jefecaminador
Well considering the actual I think flush is a decent possiblity. But if you're calling, you might as well push. Knocking out the player >> 200 chips.
Posted Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:31 am GMT by MrDarling
ok, I actually had to look up this hand to remember why I posted it.
When a game seems week to me, I'll limp with hands I usually fold since I can easily decide on the post flop action. I managed to steal / win many pots post flop.
Why are you not worried about flush?
The betting action suggests one. checking a blank flop. making a min bet on the flush draw of the turn (us noobies consider mini bet a blocking bet) then going (almost) all out when the flush hit on the river.
don't forget, I had a runner runner to make my str8.
Normally I would probably fold in situation like this. Though I never push, especially not when I don't think he will fold. My reasoning (probably a poor one) if I lost, I want to keep as many chips as I can.
In this case :
MrDarling has 15 seconds left to act
MrDarling calls 700
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tt157 shows   (three of a kind, Queens)
MrDarling shows (a straight, Ace high)
MrDarling wins the pot (2,100) with a straight, Ace high
After the hand I told this was a funny bet.
He checked the flop. probably hoping I'll try to bet him out of it.
Then mini bet the turn - a strong bet would have made me fold. I hate chasing, but he was giving me excellent odds.
Then the river is the worse card he can imagine. Yet he bet big, the only hands he might scare off are the ones he easily beat (pair or even 2 pair).
I went on winning this S&G and adding an amazing $4.5 to my BR 
Posted Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:54 pm GMT by Jauron
He only has 300 back, put him in or fold. I don't see any reason to call.
The bet looks like someone trying to suddenly get value out of a hand they are about to get no value out of, it's not even a good bluff amount which makes it more likely he has a hand, but he had it on the flop or turn. You'd think the flush draw would bet more on the turn, 100 is either I've got nothing at all or please call me. It's a poor drawing bet IMO.
I'm not always the best guy ask about stuff like this, I don't consider myself to be mainstream in my thinking, if I draw to a hand with rare exception I will bet the hell out of it if I hit it unless someone gives me a compelling reason to slow down. With only 300 back there is no safe play here, it's all or nothing IMO.
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