Posted Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:41 pm GMT by ninetensuited
he busted out on the first hand of the WSOP M.E. he gets KK makes a 5x bb raise( why that large i dont know) gets one call, flop is 8 6 2. he pushes. gets called by 88. (DUMB MOVE!) anyways he busted out on the first hand
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Posted Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:54 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
lol well I hope he didn't actually pay the entry-fee 
Posted Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:55 pm GMT by ninetensuited
ummmm. i plead the 5th!
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:50 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| ninetensuited wrote: | | ummmm. i plead the 5th! |
If he's got that kinda cash... any chance he'd be interested in backing me? 8)
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:37 am GMT by MrDarling
How annoying is that?
I was going to ask in the forum something along this lines :
you pay a hugh entry fee for a tournament, travel arrangements and accommodation . You arrive to day 1 , look at your hand and are happy to see AA. you're on the BB , MP pushes allin. Do you call?
Sure, you are at worse 75% to win.
Are you willing to risk all that money and time for a 25% chance of going home?
I know you should, but are you really?
Seems like your uncle did.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:38 am GMT by Poto
| MrDarling wrote: | How annoying is that?
I was going to ask in the forum something along this lines :
you pay a hugh entry fee for a tournament, travel arrangements and accommodation . You arrive to day 1 , look at your hand and are happy to see AA. you're on the BB , MP pushes allin. Do you call?
Sure, you are at most 75% to win.
Are you willing to risk all that money and time for a 25% chance of going home?
I know you should, but are you really?
Seems like your uncle did. |
I'd do that without any doubt. I mean how often do you get a better spot than that. If I'm playing in the WSOP I'll at least try to do my best to go far. How do you figure 75% at best by the way? vs AK your more than a 90% fav. and vs KK your slightly more than an 80% fav.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:20 am GMT by MrDarling
I meant at worse.
Of course you are right, the odds are in your favor , but all of your chips?
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:39 am GMT by Geno
I'd push KK on an all unders flop like that and hope the guy has QQ or lower and not AA or a set.
I'd definitely be pushing AA pre-flop in the ME no matter if it's hand #1 or hand #2,000.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:37 am GMT by Poto
| MrDarling wrote: | I meant at worse.
Of course you are right, the odds are in your favor , but all of your chips? |
Well, if you don't risk all your chips in a situation that good chances are you'll get blinded away before the end of day 1 anyways.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:43 am GMT by MasterShake
Would you push with 9,000 an hour later? How about as a shortstack two days in? If you get AA and don't go all in you're not playing to win and you shouldn't be in the tournament. THE ONLY exception in my mind is that you are in the bubble position, you have a medium stack and a bigger stack puts you all in. And even then I probably do it anyway, but I could understand a fold.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:09 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
What a story PBA, that's sick.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:08 pm GMT by groton
yah id be all in then also thoe so no just looks like bad luck to me
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:35 pm GMT by jimmer
he might get himself on tv!
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:00 pm GMT by mindgame
That's the whole problem of the artificial construct we call tournament poker. I recently was in a 156 table $10 tourney and got KK on my first hand. With 3000 in front of me I raise to 300, got a call and a 300 re-raise. I re-raised to 1000 got another call and the button went all-in. At this point I'm thrilled to have achieved what I wanted and pretty sure that the button has made the move to make me drop and isolate the middle guy so I didn't hesitate to call.
The hands?
KK, QQ. AA
Flop was Qxx, nothing on the turn or river. End of tourney for the best and second best hands you can hold.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:13 pm GMT by TxShadow
To the OP: That is sick. How did he react to that? I think I would have cried.
As far as pushing there, taking into consideration that you obviously have an average chipstack, why would you push after the flop with KK? The only thing that you beat that has a reasonable chance of calling is QQ (and I think that's getting folded a lot). Otherwise, you're taking down a small pot or losing all of your chips to a set or AA.
Posted Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:15 pm GMT by TxShadow
| MrDarling wrote: | How annoying is that?
I was going to ask in the forum something along this lines :
you pay a hugh entry fee for a tournament, travel arrangements and accommodation . You arrive to day 1 , look at your hand and are happy to see AA. you're on the BB , MP pushes allin. Do you call?
Sure, you are at worse 75% to win.
Are you willing to risk all that money and time for a 25% chance of going home?
I know you should, but are you really?
Seems like your uncle did. |
There is a big difference in calling an all-in preflop with AA and pushing with KK postflop.
Posted Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:32 pm GMT by Johny
How on earth do you get all your chips in with just an overpair with a 200bb stack?
Learn to play small pots at the right time!
Posted Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:58 am GMT by MrDarling
of course, with AA I'll try to get an allin preflop as frequent as possible, but even AA, post flop I might put down.
Pushing allin on a flop like that is never a good idea, its either you are way up, and wont get any caller. Or you are beaten.
Bet into the flop and try to get information, then you can lay a hand down and try to survive the tourney while you are crippled.
One of the last hugh MTT I played (freeroll 2nd stage) my first hand was AA. Made a big Preflop bet - two callers. Flop didn't look that bad (though with 2 diamonds) Made another hugh bet, one caller. Turn was another diamond. I checked, and sadly called the river to be beaten. 1/5 of the starting stack in chips is still better then none.
i did manage to climb back to 20XBB...
Posted Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:29 pm GMT by Buffarino
A friend of mine just busted out of the Main Event yesterday with pocket rockets. He was somewhat short-stacked (around 45k in chips) and on the button. EP raises, my buddy re-raises, EP pushes all-in (had my buddy covered) and my buddy called. EP had pocket 10s and spiked a 10 on the river.
Oh, well, that's poker.
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