Posted Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:20 pm GMT by Biowza
Sup, I was watching some pros and amateurs playing some poker on full tilt just then and this hand came up...
Full Tilt Poker Game #860541553: Table Gardenia - $50/$100 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:47:46 ET - 2006/08/03
Seat 1: Budwig ($34,083.50)
Seat 2: David Grey ($12,644)
Seat 4: StillTippin ($16,788)
Seat 6: Erick Lindgren ($12,044)
Seat 8: John Juanda ($11,514)
Seat 9: electra ($8,992.90)
electra posts the small blind of $50
Budwig posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
David Grey folds
StillTippin folds
Erick Lindgren folds
John Juanda raises to $300
electra folds
Budwig calls $200
*** FLOP *** K  5 3
Budwig checks
jimmy4256 sits down
jimmy4256 stands up
yorkison sits down
John Juanda: E- tonite they showing the ppt i won
yorkison stands up
John Juanda has 15 seconds left to act
John Juanda bets $400
Budwig calls $400
*** TURN *** K 5 3 2 
Budwig checks
John Juanda: oppss, shouldnt have killed the suspense
David Grey: u guys going to the corum party tonite?
Erick Lindgren: travel?
John Juanda has 15 seconds left to act
Erick Lindgren: going to the hoops game
Erick Lindgren: usa puerto rico
John Juanda bets $1,400
Budwig calls $1,400
*** RIVER *** K 5 3 2 Q
David Grey: got good seats?
Budwig bets $1,200
John Juanda has 15 seconds left to act
John Juanda raises to $7,850
Budwig has 15 seconds left to act
Budwig calls $6,650
*** SHOW DOWN ***
John Juanda shows T 8  (King Queen high)
Budwig shows Q K  (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Budwig wins the pot ($19,947) with two pair, Kings and Queens
John Juanda adds $8,436
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19,950 | Rake $3
Board: K 5 3 2 Q
Seat 1: Budwig (big blind) showed Q K and won ($19,947) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 2: David Grey didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: StillTippin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Erick Lindgren didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: John Juanda (button) showed   and lost with King Queen high
Seat 9: electra (small blind) folded before the Flop
Wow i just find this an amazing call with four hearts out there. Not to mention the brave bluff by John Juanda. Just a crazy hand.
Thoughts?
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Posted Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:54 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
Yeh, interesting hand.
I think what gave it away was John kept firing out bets on the flop, turn, river, etc. and often if you've hit your flush on the flop, or you don't do that. I think Budwig picked up on that and realized John was trying to protect a dead hand. Gutsy raise, gutsy call but I think after the way he played that hand I can see why the guy called.
Not that I'm an expert or would've seen it the same way, but he sure made a good read in order to make that call.
Posted Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:07 am GMT by shorn7
One thing to remember when watching these types of situations is that you can't analyze the plays in a vaccuum. At these levels, the same guys see each other over and over and I would imagine Juanda has an extensive database on this opponent in terms of how he plays certain hands. So, while his push on the river with nothing may seem foolish and donk-like, I am sure that there was solid, theoretical read analysis behind it (i.e., this guy is prone to laying down small flushes to big bets, or when he check/calls on each street but leads the river, he is bluffing x% of the time, stuff like that).
In essence, I look at it as JJ made a good read that the guy didn't have a flush and he tried to push him out of the pot. The guy decided to make a stand this time and was right (although i have to say that it was a dangerous bet and call all-in with two pair since JJ could easily have had 1 random heart in his hand).
Anyway, long run if this guy plays like this, I am pretty confident that JJ will get his $$.
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