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Call Station?



Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by Skribbles
NL100 @ Party

Hero $95
Villian covers


Hero limps UTG w/ 33
Villian limps right behind


5 people see the flop (no raise)

Pre-flop: $5

Flop: 357 rainbow

Hero leads for $5, Villian calls, all fold.

Turn: K
Pot= $15

Hero bets $13, Villian calls

River: T
Pot =$41

Hero???


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Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:20 pm GMT by Johny
You have any reads? Those cold calls could be scary.

If villain normally won't over slowplay his monsters then I would lead for around $30.



Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:21 pm GMT by supafrey
20-30 is fine.


Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:31 pm GMT by khaosanroad
I hate these hands. The fact that he limped in is what bugs me. he could have a bigger set. He must be putting you on a low set or a medium over pair OR he's just a calling station with a couple of overcards.

This is read dependent. If he's a pretty passive player I fold. If he's loose or aggressive post flop I Bet the River. If I have no read on him I might check the river.


Bet half the pot on the river. If he has over cards or a missed gut shot draw he folds. If he raises let it go. I don't think you're going to push him off this pot.



Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:46 pm GMT by MJJ
I think that short of a really good read on someone, it is a mistake to fold a set (w/out a str8 or fl board out there)
You caould easily have someone playing a high PP or 2 pr after you. If you fold a set here you are losing money in the long run.



Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:57 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
supafrey wrote:
20-30 is fine.


+1

I'm thinking villain's on 66, 88 or 99.



Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:15 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Agree with Supa and Sean. $20-$30. If he comes over the top then you have a tough choice but I would at least call to make sure he isn't chumping me.


Posted Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:43 pm GMT by TheSalche
what are we folding a set to?

4 6 ? doubt it

higher set?

if you're folding a set because you think somebody has a higher set, its overthinking NL 100

i agree with supa here, im calling a push "hoping" hes got aces, queens or jacks ... but kings and tens are also possible holdings



Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:03 am GMT by khaosanroad
So what happened?


Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:36 pm GMT by Skribbles
I bet $25 and got min-raised.


Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:37 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Skribbles wrote:
I bet $25 and got min-raised.

ew.

I assume you called, and either he showed KT or a higher set.



Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:12 am GMT by MrDarling
I guess two pairs (or a higher set)


Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:25 am GMT by UrAteUp
My guess would be he has 2 pr. Call his min. raise just so you get no un-welcomed surprises.

So what happens next ? How did this hand end?



Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:06 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Just go all in. You're supposed to bust if its set over set anyway, and I think the majority of the time here you're still ahead.

If he does have you beat, just reload.



Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Jefecaminador wrote:
Just go all in. You're supposed to bust if its set over set anyway, and I think the majority of the time here you're still ahead.

If he does have you beat, just reload.


Jeff please sign up and play me at Doyles Room... Laughing...I like the way you think and my bankroll can sure use some extra padding... Laughing Laughing



Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:37 pm GMT by Jauron
UrAteUp wrote:
Jefecaminador wrote:
Just go all in. You're supposed to bust if its set over set anyway, and I think the majority of the time here you're still ahead.

If he does have you beat, just reload.


Jeff please sign up and play me at Doyles Room... Laughing...I like the way you think and my bankroll can sure use some extra padding... Laughing Laughing


I'll jump on the table, and give you a reason to fold every hand. 8)



Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:18 pm GMT by Loonbat
I'm losing coin on this one if the villian has a larger set. I'm betting the river and calling the min-raise, not pushing. The villian will generally only call if you're beat.

I doubt villian has 64, but it's possible. He may just have a good top pair, however, and is not afraid of a set because you've been betting out. For instance KQ/KJ may play the hand this way.






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