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Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:45 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
PokerStars Game #5851568000: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/08/09 - 02:41:57 (ET)
Table 'Lacrimosa IV' 8-max
Seat 1: 01 KIRSTEN ($39 in chips)
Seat 2: Alchemist1 ($161.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Turn_Prophet ($161.25 in chips)
Seat 5: ShaneG87 ($126.50 in chips)
Seat 6: psymon123 ($20 in chips)
Seat 7: Sensor ($59.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Woolf403 ($55.50 in chips)
01 KIRSTEN: posts the ante $0.25
Alchemist1: posts the ante $0.25
Turn_Prophet: posts the ante $0.25
ShaneG87: posts the ante $0.25
psymon123: posts the ante $0.25
Sensor: posts the ante $0.25
Woolf403: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to 01 KIRSTEN 
Dealt to Alchemist1 
Dealt to Turn_Prophet   
Dealt to ShaneG87 
Dealt to psymon123 
Dealt to Sensor 
Dealt to Woolf403 
ShaneG87: bets $2
psymon123: folds
Sensor: folds
Woolf403: calls $2
01 KIRSTEN: folds
Alchemist1: folds
Turn_Prophet: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
Dealt to ShaneG87 
Dealt to Woolf403 
Turn_Prophet: bets $2
ShaneG87: raises $2 to $4
Woolf403: calls $4
Turn_Prophet: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
Dealt to ShaneG87 
Dealt to Woolf403 
Turn_Prophet: bets $4
ShaneG87: raises $4 to $8
Woolf403: calls $8
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $12
ShaneG87: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
Woolf403: calls $8
Turn_Prophet: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
Dealt to ShaneG87 
Dealt to Woolf403 
ShaneG87: bets $4
Woolf403: calls $4
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $8
ShaneG87: raises $4 to $12
Woolf403: calls $8
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
ShaneG87: calls $4
Woolf403: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
ShaneG87: bets $4
Woolf403: calls $4
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $8
ShaneG87: raises $4 to $12
Woolf403: folds
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
ShaneG87: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Turn_Prophet: shows (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
ShaneG87: mucks hand
Turn_Prophet collected $74.50 from pot
Turn_Prophet collected $74.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $151.75 | Rake $3
Seat 1: 01 KIRSTEN folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Alchemist1 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Turn_Prophet showed and won ($148.75) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 5: ShaneG87 mucked   
Seat 6: psymon123 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Sensor folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Woolf403 folded on the River
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Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:42 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
It strikes again...
PokerStars Game #5855444648: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/08/09 - 15:33:39 (ET)
Table 'Saiph III' 8-max
Seat 1: pawa666 ($227.50 in chips)
Seat 2: pecos ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 3: ctj*abq ($129.25 in chips)
Seat 4: AceKing001 ($28.75 in chips)
Seat 5: hoddog69 ($121.25 in chips)
Seat 6: brodiemcleet ($53.75 in chips)
Seat 7: ImAFish4U ($76.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Turn_Prophet ($98.50 in chips)
pawa666: posts the ante $0.25
pecos: posts the ante $0.25
ctj*abq: posts the ante $0.25
AceKing001: posts the ante $0.25
hoddog69: posts the ante $0.25
brodiemcleet: posts the ante $0.25
ImAFish4U: posts the ante $0.25
Turn_Prophet: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to pawa666 
Dealt to pecos 
Dealt to ctj*abq 
Dealt to AceKing001 
Dealt to hoddog69
Dealt to brodiemcleet 
Dealt to ImAFish4U 
Dealt to Turn_Prophet  
hoddog69: brings-in low $1
brodiemcleet: folds
ImAFish4U: folds
Turn_Prophet: calls $1
pawa666: calls $1
pecos: calls $1
ctj*abq: folds
AceKing001: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to pawa666
Dealt to pecos 
Dealt to AceKing001 
Dealt to hoddog69 
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
pecos: bets $2
AceKing001: calls $2
hoddog69: folds
Turn_Prophet: calls $2
pawa666: raises $2 to $4
pecos: calls $2
AceKing001: calls $2
Turn_Prophet: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to pawa666 
Dealt to pecos 
Dealt to AceKing001 
Dealt to Turn_Prophet
pecos: checks
AceKing001: checks
Turn_Prophet: bets $4
pawa666: raises $4 to $8
pecos: calls $8
AceKing001: folds
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $12
pawa666: calls $4
pecos: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to pawa666
Dealt to pecos
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
pecos: bets $4
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $8
pawa666: calls $8
pecos: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet 
pecos: checks
Turn_Prophet: bets $4
pawa666: raises $4 to $8
pecos: calls $8
Turn_Prophet: raises $4 to $12
pawa666: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
pecos: calls $5.25 and is all-in
Turn_Prophet: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pawa666: shows   (HI: a pair of Kings)
Turn_Prophet: shows (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
Turn_Prophet collected $2.75 from side pot
Turn_Prophet collected $2.75 from side pot
pecos: mucks hand
Turn_Prophet collected $60 from main pot
Turn_Prophet collected $59.75 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $128.25 Main pot $119.75. Side pot $5.50. | Rake $3
Seat 1: pawa666 showed and lost with HI: a pair of Kings
Seat 2: pecos mucked 
Seat 3: ctj*abq folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: AceKing001 folded on the 5th Street
Seat 5: hoddog69 folded on the 4th Street
Seat 6: brodiemcleet folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ImAFish4U folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Turn_Prophet showed and won ($125.25) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
I have not seen the Stud-8 tables so soft in months...
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:55 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
I'm not expert on this game but WTF was he doing thinking his Kings were good lol.
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:52 pm GMT by Fat Tony
It appears that the guy with the Kings is not too familiar with the game either.
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:18 pm GMT by TheSalche
stop bragging
Posted Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:42 am GMT by flafishy
Stud/8 is overall probably the softest game around. About 90% of people I've played at 3/6 and lower grossly overvalue pairs and high/middle straight and flush draws.
That said ... Diamond, I can't get out of here without saying that you should have been jamming every street on both of those hands. Make those people pay a fortune for playing their high hands. They'll pay you off handsomely. Even if you end up splitting the pot with them, jamming them is hugely profitable in the long run. I know you'll disagree, but I just can't help myself. 
Posted Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:01 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
You mean on 4th as well? He still only has a draw at that point, plus its on the cheaper street. I think he played it fine as is.
Posted Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:26 am GMT by flafishy
Absolutely on 4th. This is a drawing game, and you need to get hyper aggressive with your strong draws. Draws don't get too much better than this.
In each hand, it looks like you have at least one opponent who might be drawing to a high straight and, in the second hand, also a high flush or two. Get rid of him if at all possible because you don't want to split the pot with him. Even if he's just playing a high pair, you want to get rid of him. That way, if you miss your straight draw, you still might be able to scoop with a pair and a low.
Diamond argues in the case of Stud high that you don't want to build the pot up too early to give him pot odds to draw. After steadfastly arguing against that, I'm starting to see the light on that.
But that doesn't really apply here, as his pot odds are essentially going to be cut in half. He's never going to have correct pot odds to draw, so you either want to force him out or charge him a fortune to hang around.
Posted Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:32 am GMT by flafishy
| mooseontheloose wrote: | | I'm not expert on this game but WTF was he doing thinking his Kings were good lol. |
WTF was he even doing in this hand to begin with? 
Posted Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:53 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Well I don't disagree with you fishy. Probably the only reason I didn't was that the people on the table were likely to pay you off with a made hand, so there was not as much need to get money in with a draw to maximize profit. Although jamming the pot (which probably would have been good for one extra bet from each player) is probably correct here. And certainly I'd jam with a 4-flush or 2345, so I'm not sure why I didn't here.
Next time.
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