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Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:15 am GMT by mortaleclipse
Playing at the good old 2/5NL at the boat. Bought in for 250 (max is 300). First hand i get is ace/jack of spades.
Lady raises - 30 dollars
Guy 1 - calls
I - call
pot size 90 dollars
Flop - ace clubs, queen diamonds, 8 hearts
Lady - 60 dollars
Looking at her she seamed eager to bet and I knew something was fishy but I of course had to call to see next card so I called
Guy 1 folds
Turn 4 diamonds
Lady doesnt even hesitate and fires 100 bones at the pot. Im thinking holy crap this is my first hand and i am at risk of my entire stack right now. I was putting her on big slick or possibly floped 2 pair. So i give up my ace/jack. I tell her im making a pretty big lay down and her face looks very dissapointed. She goes you had a ace didnt you and I said yes. She shows me pockets queens for the set she floped. Talk about a sigh of relief, that could of been a nightmare.
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Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:12 am GMT by mindgame
I laid down a high pair to a set once.
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:43 am GMT by Oasis
Don't scare me like that, i'm going to be playing my first live game at the casino this week.
Nice laydown man.
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:14 am GMT by mindgame
Be careful.
You have to fold sometimes.
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:23 am GMT by mortaleclipse
Good luck Oasis, let me tell you bring your A game to the table. Like it is here and im sure almost everywere else, be careful of the sharks. There are regulars at our casino and I try to stay out of there way cause I know if im playing a pot against them i better be holding some heaters but then again if you can spot that new guy who calls on all draws he will be your bank. What i seam to find the most profitable is playing at very late hours of the night. Most guys or ladies are extremelly tired, not thinking cleary, and they are not on there game and this is when I usually take advantage.
I once went to the baot were there was only 3 guys playing the NL and 2 of them were going on 30 hour sessions and not playing the best anymore. I can tell you one guy was putting all his money on the line when he was on a fush draw and I made bank on him. Dont be afraid to lay down hands, im sure you know all this stuff but live games are totally diffrent then those online NL games. Shakey hands are the worst when you holding the nutz :p
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:58 am GMT by Oasis
Thanks for the kind words.
It's going to be daunting because i'll be playing out of my bankroll as well as the fact that i'll be startled as a first timer. But it's something I want to do. The money isn't that important to me, it will be more for experience but this doesn't mean I won't be out to win.
I rang the casino today and they have a $100min/$500max buy in game. I can't remember the stakes (probably 1/2 or 2/4) but I plan to take about 200 to the table. I don't really want to put more then 250 on the line.
Any other tips will be appreciated, and yes I have planned to go late Saturday to take advantage of the drunk/tired people. I plan to play very tight for a few orbits, don't get involved in big pots, get a feel for the table and then see how I go from there; but anything else you may suggest will be taken on board.
I'll let you know how I get on :]
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:04 am GMT by mindgame
All kidding aside, I think the time you pick, especially for your first casino visit, can be very important.
Best time? Go about 2 or 3 on a Saturday (Fri night) or Sunday morning after 6 or 8 hours sleep. I'm not kidding. By 6 am you are the only one who can even think straight. People get incredibly sloppy, and tells are almost over-exaggerated. “Acting” is likewise incredibly obvious. The best players have left or are about to. Serious regulars and pros (at least in my observations) play between 6pm and 2am—that’s when the action’s hottest and the chances are highest of catching high-rolling and clueless gamblers walking in. The regulars don’t want to stay much later than 2 because it screws up their routine. The rock-tight retirees supplementing their social security (Oh, an ornery, cranky, bunch those guys are) all get out of there at midnight.
So who’s there? Losers on their last couple of hundred, hoping to “catch a good run” and even up—they are in way too many hands and have been all night, but when they catch they cripple you. Winners who just don’t have the sense to walk away while the stack is big. Insomniacs. Guys too pathetic to have a regular gf.
You.
Sometimes me.
(That’s the scary part—but in that crowd the good players are obvious and easy to avoid.)
Posted Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:26 am GMT by mortaleclipse
| mindgame wrote: | All kidding aside, I think the time you pick, especially for your first casino visit, can be very important.
Best time? Go about 2 or 3 on a Saturday (Fri night) or Sunday morning after 6 or 8 hours sleep. I'm not kidding. By 6 am you are the only one who can even think straight. People get incredibly sloppy, and tells are almost over-exaggerated. “Acting” is likewise incredibly obvious. The best players have left or are about to. Serious regulars and pros (at least in my observations) play between 6pm and 2am—that’s when the action’s hottest and the chances are highest of catching high-rolling and clueless gamblers walking in. The regulars don’t want to stay much later than 2 because it screws up their routine. The rock-tight retirees supplementing their social security (Oh, an ornery, cranky, bunch those guys are) all get out of there at midnight.
So who’s there? Losers on their last couple of hundred, hoping to “catch a good run” and even up—they are in way too many hands and have been all night, but when they catch they cripple you. Winners who just don’t have the sense to walk away while the stack is big. Insomniacs. Guys too pathetic to have a regular gf.
You.
Sometimes me.
(That’s the scary part—but in that crowd the good players are obvious and easy to avoid.) |
yea basically what he said is what I was trying to say. The thing about not buying in for full amount is you are not able to protect your hands as well. I have come across this situtation and it sucks. You dont have enough to make a guy lay down a hand and he calls for pot odds and sucks you out on river. It has happened a billion times at the casino cause i almost never have the full 300 to cash in with. Im sure you are aware of this but just be careful about that.
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