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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:24 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
Would a better way to play this have been bet the flop, then check/fold the turn (obviously the way it played out I should've got allin, but generally, when called on that flop, what do you do?).
I wasn't even mad when he showed, I was just kinda like  right on, nice play haha
PokerStars Game #5880219928: Tournament #29772664, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/08/11 - 17:41:23 (ET)
Table '29772664 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: smallt (1080 in chips)
Seat 3: chrishtp (2455 in chips)
Seat 8: Cricket_Fire (4420 in chips)
Seat 9: RadRandyF (1385 in chips)
Seat 10: Thinkalu (5660 in chips)
smallt: posts the ante 25
chrishtp: posts the ante 25
Cricket_Fire: posts the ante 25
RadRandyF: posts the ante 25
Thinkalu: posts the ante 25
Cricket_Fire: posts small blind 100
RadRandyF: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cricket_Fire  
Thinkalu: raises 200 to 400
smallt: folds
chrishtp: folds
Cricket_Fire: calls 300
RadRandyF: folds
*** FLOP ***   
Cricket_Fire: bets 800
Thinkalu: calls 800
*** TURN *** 
Cricket_Fire: bets 1000
Thinkalu: calls 1000
*** RIVER *** 
Cricket_Fire: checks
Thinkalu: bets 3435 and is all-in
Cricket_Fire: folds
Thinkalu collected 4725 from pot
Thinkalu: shows   (two pair, Fives and Deuces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4725 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: smallt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: chrishtp (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Cricket_Fire (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 9: RadRandyF (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 10: Thinkalu collected (4725)
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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:39 pm GMT by crack
Don't call with ATo OOP.
Reraise or fold, imo.
Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:41 pm GMT by crack
By the way, if you are going to call it and you are going to bet the flop, then why not check raise if you put him on a hand he can't call?
It risks more chips, but it's a stronger play, and you will pick up a bigger pot by letting him continuation bet, and you look like you have a stronger hand.
I only wouldn't do this, because I am usually reraising or folding in that spot and taking the lead of the pot.
Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:02 pm GMT by TheSalche
1. You called out of position with ace 10 in the small blind, probably not the greatest idea.
2. You don't give it up on the flop, instead you bet it, which doesn't give you any information, possibly going for a check-raise here or just check folding is probably a better line
Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:16 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
Thanks for the advice
So, I should've reraised or folded. If I would have been in position on flop, would it be the same, or could I call?
Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:30 pm GMT by JackKingOff
i could not put him on either a 2 or a 5... and referring to the situation u had more than half ur stack in i believe?? i woulda pushed on the turn pretty sure of having the best hand
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:21 am GMT by crack
| Cricket_Fire wrote: | Thanks for the advice
So, I should've reraised or folded. If I would have been in position on flop, would it be the same, or could I call? |
As in if you had position on him? If you did then you give him first chance to bluff at the pot and take it down. I think I'd reraise or fold and pretty much never call, with position and I was planning to raise his continuation on the flop then I would call sometimes, but not often.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:20 am GMT by MrDarling
You guys really don't call or raise with ATo ? Not even in these levels?
Wow, I really need to consider my starting hands again.
I usually trash any Ax lower then T. But AT , I'll often limp and sometimes even raise from LP - talking about low level poker here.
As it is, I often play less then 25% of then hands.
Should I really play more suited connectors and less AX hands?
As for the above hand, seems like he had an excellent read on you and new you to be weak or not bet unless you got the nuts (I often fall into that category)
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:28 am GMT by Jauron
I think most people are saying they don't JUST call with AT, they either reraise to take down the pot or consider folding it. They have to play the rest of the hand OOP, and AT is pretty strong for 5 handed, but if he misses the flop he's in a bad spot to a miniraise.
Reraise is probably the best move, smooth calling a mini raise OOP with AT is an iffy play.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:32 pm GMT by crack
You don't need much of a hand to raise, but you need a hand to call and AT isn't really one of them.
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