Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:56 pm GMT by craggoo
Im interested to know what most of you would do in this situation.
Stage #470084510 Tourney ID 65177 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $20 - 2006-08-11 20:48:52 (ET)
Table: 8578204 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 1 - RAMEYER ($1500 in chips)
Seat 2 - MEDIALIES ($1500 in chips)
Seat 3 - K_A_D ($1500 in chips)
Seat 4 - BIGTEX177 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 5 - CRAGGOO ($1500 in chips)
Seat 6 - THELAWMAN ($1500 in chips)
Seat 7 - CASUALBES ($1500 in chips)
Seat 8 - JZDZ ($1500 in chips)
Seat 9 - SILVALEGACEY ($1500 in chips)
CRAGGOO - Posts small blind $10
THELAWMAN - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CRAGGOO  
CASUALBES - Folds
JZDZ - Folds
SILVALEGACEY - Calls $20
RAMEYER - Folds
MEDIALIES - Folds
K_A_D - Calls $20
BIGTEX177 - Calls $20
CRAGGOO - Raises $110 to $120
THELAWMAN - Calls $100
SILVALEGACEY - Calls $100
K_A_D - Folds
BIGTEX177 - Calls $100
*** FLOP ***   
CRAGGOO - Bets $160
THELAWMAN - Calls $160
SILVALEGACEY - Raises $320 to $320
BIGTEX177 - All-In(Raise) $1380 to $1380
This is a classical situation with you with the overpair and a very scary board. What do you do here after you've been raised and re-raised all-in? I will post the results after i get some comments on this hand.
Edit: I should add this is the first hand of the tourney.
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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:01 pm GMT by TheSalche
Call + raise + re-raise = auto-fold for you
You're facing hands like sets, made straights, flush draw + pair, two pair, pair + straight draw. All those hands are beating you or have 10+ outs. If you call the all-in here, at least one more player will call the all-in and you will be an underdog in 3-way action.
You played the hand as best you could, but its time to let this baby go and wait for a better spot.
Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:02 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Fold.
Very scary situation to be in, but you played it pretty well up until that point. PF you raised a good amount, and your continuation bet was of a good amount as well. But when you get a caller behind you, then a raise and then a re-reraise on a board like that, I'd be folding very quickly.
It seems to be the first hand of a tournament so fold here and recover in a better situation.
Posted Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:21 pm GMT by crack
Early on in a tourney, so you can easily wait for a better situation to get all your chips in.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:50 pm GMT by efram
Early in a tournament when the blinds are that low, 3 limpers in front, I have QQ, 4 more to act behind me, I would pop it up about 200 - 250 or so.
Make someone have a good hand to call and thin the field somewhat.
Still a scary board but with less people in the hand, you might not have the same raise, call, all-in, all-in situation to deal with.
Read it on here a few times, in early stages of a tourney, its nothing to call 4 or 5xbb. Make it 10x and people have to think a little harder.
I would lay down my QQ with this board given the action as well.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:08 pm GMT by craggoo
Ok i've had enough comments to post what happened. Here is the full hand history:
Stage #470084510 Tourney ID 65177 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $20 - 2006-08-11 20:48:52 (ET)
Table: 8578204 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 1 - RAMEYER ($1500 in chips)
Seat 2 - MEDIALIES ($1500 in chips)
Seat 3 - K_A_D ($1500 in chips)
Seat 4 - BIGTEX177 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 5 - CRAGGOO ($1500 in chips)
Seat 6 - THELAWMAN ($1500 in chips)
Seat 7 - CASUALBES ($1500 in chips)
Seat 8 - JZDZ ($1500 in chips)
Seat 9 - SILVALEGACEY ($1500 in chips)
CRAGGOO - Posts small blind $10
THELAWMAN - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CRAGGOO
CASUALBES - Folds
JZDZ - Folds
SILVALEGACEY - Calls $20
RAMEYER - Folds
MEDIALIES - Folds
K_A_D - Calls $20
BIGTEX177 - Calls $20
CRAGGOO - Raises $110 to $120
THELAWMAN - Calls $100
SILVALEGACEY - Calls $100
K_A_D - Folds
BIGTEX177 - Calls $100
*** FLOP ***
CRAGGOO - Bets $160
THELAWMAN - Calls $160
SILVALEGACEY - Raises $320 to $320
BIGTEX177 - All-In(Raise) $1380 to $1380
CRAGGOO - Folds
THELAWMAN - Folds
SILVALEGACEY - All-In $1060
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BIGTEX177 - Shows   (Two Pair, sevens and sixes)
SILVALEGACEY - Shows   (Two Pair, sevens and sixes)
BIGTEX177 Collects $3580 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($3580)
Board
Seat 1: RAMEYER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: MEDIALIES Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: K_A_D Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: BIGTEX177 (dealer) won Total ($3580) All-In HI:($3580) with Two Pair, sevens and sixes(king kicker) -
Seat 5: CRAGGOO (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 6: THELAWMAN (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 7: CASUALBES Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: JZDZ Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:26 pm GMT by efram
wow, the way some people play amazes me.
Give the action, I think folding is the correct play.
Posted Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:41 pm GMT by Loonbat
I agree - the overpair is an easy fold when facing the reraise on that board (even seeing the hand result).
Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:56 am GMT by MrDarling
and this is in a $20 buyin tourney?
Wow, where I play its not as lose even in the $1 buyin S&G ...
Though you did the right move. It sucks to see the result, but at least you got some info on both guys and could easily take money from them later on.
Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:50 pm GMT by TxShadow
Those people are retarded. You did the right thing.
Posted Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:45 am GMT by Gunslinger
Wow, I've been frustrated at my $5 SNG level how many people don't care about the buy-in, with all their donkey plays. I'm almost bankrolled to move up to the $10s, and was looking forward to it. Guess it won't be much different.
Posted Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:24 pm GMT by Loonbat
| Gunslinger wrote: | | Wow, I've been frustrated at my $5 SNG level how many people don't care about the buy-in, with all their donkey plays. I'm almost bankrolled to move up to the $10s, and was looking forward to it. Guess it won't be much different. |
I used to have the same feeling and then was amazed at how many moronic plays I saw at the $25 and $55 SnG turbos. Then I would check the player's stats on Sharkscope and I reached a conclusion.
Donkeys exist at all levels. Some are just able to bankroll a higher amount. It's always amazing to me to see profits in the negative thousands of dollars when you see a person has played hundreds (if not thousands) of SnGs. It makes me feel better about my measly +18% ROI. Let's not talk about my cash games stats, though 
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