Posted Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:16 pm GMT by Loonbat
Analyze for this poor boy:
This is a rebuy after the rebuy period has ended. Average stack is about 15000
PokerStars Game #5968004184: Tournament #29830482, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/08/18 - 22:04:24 (ET)
Table '29830482 222' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Loonbat (19911 in chips)
Seat 2: V_RouNder (17840 in chips)
Seat 3: suesabell (17223 in chips)
Seat 4: riccir1974 (4920 in chips)
Seat 5: 8Matthias8 (12855 in chips)
Seat 6: golphermann (6450 in chips)
Seat 7: dbur2 (30410 in chips)
Seat 8: Crev (24289 in chips)
Seat 9: RBSurfer (7052 in chips)
Loonbat: posts the ante 25
V_RouNder: posts the ante 25
suesabell: posts the ante 25
riccir1974: posts the ante 25
8Matthias8: posts the ante 25
golphermann: posts the ante 25
dbur2: posts the ante 25
Crev: posts the ante 25
RBSurfer: posts the ante 25
dbur2: posts small blind 100
Crev: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Loonbat  
RBSurfer: folds
Loonbat: raises 450 to 650
V_RouNder: folds
suesabell: calls 650
riccir1974: folds
8Matthias8: folds
golphermann: calls 650
dbur2: calls 550
Crev: folds
*** FLOP ***   
dbur2: checks
Loonbat: bets 1650
suesabell: calls 1650
golphermann: folds
dbur2: calls 1650
*** TURN *** 
dbur2: checks
Loonbat: ??
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Posted Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:23 pm GMT by E-money04
i check
Posted Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:33 pm GMT by TheSalche
id bet more on the flop and check/call a bet the turn and probably go in on the river
Posted Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:37 am GMT by ComedyBee
If you bet, he calls, then he isn't likely to have the flush. If he does have the flush then the way to feel him out is to make the same bet again on the river, so long as no other spade shows to put 4 on the board. He'll more than likely raise you on the river if he has the flush.
If you check, he checks, he wont have a flush, but he might be trying to get a free 4th spade holding a hi one in the hole. If he bets then you dont know what he has, because u allowed him the chance to bluff you.
The check makes this hand alot more dangerous and the money you spend on the next two
Posted Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:44 am GMT by mooseontheloose
| ComedyBee wrote: | If you bet, he calls, then he isn't likely to have the flush. If he does have the flush then the way to feel him out is to make the same bet again on the river, so long as no other spade shows to put 4 on the board.
If you check, he checks, he wont have a flush, but he might be trying to get a free 4th spade holding a hi one in the hole. If he bets then you dont know what he has, because u allowed him the chance to bluff you. |
Except our Hero here is holding the A of Spades 
You made a bet on the flop, somewhat small but decent, and got called by two people. I doubt anyone was calling that hoping for two more spades to come which means one of them likely has the flush. Remember here that one of the villians checked-called your flop bet, then checked the 3 spades - this screams draw and he likely hit his flush. I could be giving them too much credit, but calling on that flop would make me assme that one at least had the draw, other may have had AK himself or something but would be foolish to just call and not re-raise with AK.
If the spade comes you'll likely get a lot of action, giving away a free card is usually bad yes but a Spade will help you the most anyway, so nothing wrong with it here.
Posted Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by Loonbat
The turn bet and result. I think i really screwed the pooch on this one. Also, what are you putting my opponents on?
PokerStars Game #5968004184: Tournament #29830482, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/08/18 - 22:04:24 (ET)
Table '29830482 222' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Loonbat (19911 in chips)
Seat 2: V_RouNder (17840 in chips)
Seat 3: suesabell (17223 in chips)
Seat 4: riccir1974 (4920 in chips)
Seat 5: 8Matthias8 (12855 in chips)
Seat 6: golphermann (6450 in chips)
Seat 7: dbur2 (30410 in chips)
Seat 8: Crev (24289 in chips)
Seat 9: RBSurfer (7052 in chips)
Loonbat: posts the ante 25
V_RouNder: posts the ante 25
suesabell: posts the ante 25
riccir1974: posts the ante 25
8Matthias8: posts the ante 25
golphermann: posts the ante 25
dbur2: posts the ante 25
Crev: posts the ante 25
RBSurfer: posts the ante 25
dbur2: posts small blind 100
Crev: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Loonbat
RBSurfer: folds
Loonbat: raises 450 to 650
V_RouNder: folds
suesabell: calls 650
riccir1974: folds
8Matthias8: folds
golphermann: calls 650
dbur2: calls 550
Crev: folds
*** FLOP ***
dbur2: checks
Loonbat: bets 1650
suesabell: calls 1650
golphermann: folds
dbur2: calls 1650
*** TURN ***
dbur2: checks
Loonbat: bets 3500
suesabell: calls 3500
dbur2: calls 3500
*** RIVER *** 
dbur2: checks
Loonbat: ??
Check or bet? If I check and Sue bets and dbur folds, do i call? What if Sue bets and dbur calls ... do i overcall? Results next ... TPTK sucks some days.
Posted Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:32 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
Yeh, think it was a mistake to bet on the turn, especially such a big bet. The one villian is check calling the whole way and he checks again on the river, he could be a fish but more than likely he has the flush. The other guy with you guys may have the flush or he may have something like AK or KK and is holding K of spades, hoping to hit the flush as well. Could also be a set out there, but probably not because you were never raised. After getting called twice you're likely behind. The guy that has been check calling has checked the river, check behind him and hope the last guy also checks and maybe by some stroke of luck they both badly misplayed their hands.
I may be wrong, but you're almost certainly beat. The only ones calling your bet have you beat and from the way it went, you'll be called by at least one. If you check and last guy bets, you may want to call if it's very small and your other villian folds or calls (no raise).
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