Posted Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:09 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
PokerStars Game #5992916660: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/08/20 - 21:31:02 (ET)
Table 'Thora III' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: takeyurcash ($2.60 in chips)
Seat 2: grandpa2792 ($12.20 in chips)
Seat 3: ozjunx ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 4: LeafsFan1122 ($23.80 in chips)
bSeat 5: Deere Leo ($27.30 in chips)
Seat 6: basshole320 ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 7: tere here ($52.50 in chips)
Seat 8: alkelly ($12.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Jonnyb10 ($30 in chips)
basshole320: posts small blind $0.10
tere here: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LeafsFan1122 Q  Q 
alkelly: calls $0.25
Jonnyb10: calls $0.25
takeyurcash: folds
grandpa2792: folds
ozjunx: folds
LeafsFan1122: raises $1 to $1.25
Deere Leo: raises $1 to $2.25
basshole320: folds
tere here: calls $2
alkelly: folds
Jonnyb10: calls $2
LeafsFan1122: raises $4.25 to $6.50
Deere Leo: calls $4.25
tere here: folds
Jonnyb10: calls $4.25
*** FLOP *** 3  J 9
Jonnyb10: checks
LeafsFan1122: bets $7
Deere Leo: raises $13.80 to $20.80 and is all-in
Jonnyb10: folds
tere here said, "lol how can you fold leafs fan"
Jonnyb10 said, "call dumb ***"
tere here said, "lol he bluffed with his reraise"
LeafsFan1122: ?
Comments?
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Posted Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:52 pm GMT by weirdofreek
call he has AJ
Posted Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:45 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| weirdofreek wrote: | | call he has AJ |
That's a fairly weird observation vs a player we can only regard as an unknown.
OP: W reads that he bluffs or overplays marginal hands this is an easy call. Vs others I think it is probably a crying call due to pot odds and general quality of play at these levels. We can probably fold w/reads saying he is a generally tight player.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:50 am GMT by khaosanroad
I'd call to show that you actually have a decent hand. They are not respecting your raises.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:01 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
Well, I did in fact make the crying call. Villain had JJ but I very luckily went runner runner straight to win the 50$ pot.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:07 am GMT by MrDarling
I thought he might have J's ...
It is a hard hand if you have reads on the player, without reads, it should be folded.
btw, again, this is what I talk about in the ignoring information bet topic : http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/forum/t18739/do-you-ever-ignore-the-information-bet
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:38 am GMT by tame_deuces
This is a 'very' common NL scenario, preflop goes raise, you re-raise, op calls and then a T, J or Q flops to your overpair. Basically its scenario an NL player has to master properly. As I stated in my previous post: At low stakes I call easy w/reads, I call vs unknowns due to quality of play and pot odds, probably call w/back up draw and I don't have a problem folding w/reads since you'll be drawing for 2 outs alot of the time.
Calling isn't the biggest of mistakes anyway since we get in so much preflop, but as the play grows tougher you'll see AA (and sometimes KK) vs alot of players here too (the infamous 'stackadonk' move), and then we _really_ need to think a call through.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:03 am GMT by shorn7
I actually might lay it down. I call with Aces for sure, but there are two overpairs to your hand in addition to the sets he could have (JJ ad 99) to which you are pretty dead. You are getting 2-1 odds which are pretty good. But, without a specific read on this player as someone who likes to play draws very aggressively, I probably fold. Hell, to AKc you are a coinflip. He could even have J9.
I guess I have just decided that I am not going to lose my stack very often with one pair any more. I would bet that 7-8 times out of 10 that you make this call you are behind and there is no way you catch often enough to make it up.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:10 am GMT by UrAteUp
I can't say I would lay this down. Probably just the opposite because I would have probably put villian on AJ after the flop.
What I can say is there is a new luckbox in town guys...and he goes by the name LeafsFan1122.... 
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:16 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
Yeah, I'm very lucky that I won that.
But it had to of come sooner or later. Previous stats with QQ in 25NL:
QQ - 61 times, 76% Win % - (-$21.50)
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