Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:05 am GMT by Cricket_Fire
$5 buyin - 4 man SnG
Blinds 0.10-0.20
We're 3 handed. Alright player SB (decent player, I can deffinitly outplay him though), very weak palyer BB (folds alot his blinds, calls sometimes out of frustration, then folds to flop bet unless he hits)
I'm dealt 98s on button
I raise 0.50, sb folds, button looks stressed out, and moves in.
I'm getting about 2-1 at this point, will still be fairly healthy if I call & lose
Generally, physical tells on him have been fairly accurate, and if he moans, he is actually pissed, and if he sits up and looks really excited, he's got a powerful hand. I figure because he looks so stressed, he probably doesn't have big pair, so aslong as I'm not against 88-JJ (don't think he has QQ-AA), I'm not more then a 2-1 dog, right?. Losing doesn't hurt my stack too badly ($20 in chips on table, if I lose I'll still have ~$5).
Call here?
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Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:17 am GMT by Skribbles
If he is as weak as you say, fold. No point going into a hand when you are most definitly behind against a weak player. Keep picking away at him. No need to gamble here.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:57 am GMT by aaronw
I concur with the above. If you are a better player, there is no need to put your money in and hope to get lucky. You are surely behind here, so no need to put your money in as an underdog. If you say you can outplay him, just fold and outplay him later on. You will find a better spot to get your money in. Also, you have very little invested in the hand. There is no need to risk ~ 1/4 of your stack when you are a sure dog and are better than the player.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:59 pm GMT by Jauron
Best I can figure, BB has about 1.50 total. It cost you about 1.00 to call and you have .5 already in the pot. Combine that with your read and I don't think you are probable to be worse than a 2-1 dog. It costs you nearly as much to fold as it does to call it is why I probably do.
I agree with everything said above me, but this is one of those times I think it is correct to gamble despite not needing to.
If only 2 spots get paid I call even more.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:36 pm GMT by Skribbles
| Jauron wrote: | Best I can figure, BB has about 1.50 total. It cost you about 1.00 to call and you have .5 already in the pot. Combine that with your read and I don't think you are probable to be worse than a 2-1 dog. It costs you nearly as much to fold as it does to call it is why I probably do.
I agree with everything said above me, but this is one of those times I think it is correct to gamble despite not needing to.
If only 2 spots get paid I call even more. |
If he only has $1.50 total, then definitly call. I was under the assumption he had around $3+.
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:22 pm GMT by aaronw
Skribbles wrote | Quote: | | If he only has $1.50 total, then definitly call. I was under the assumption he had around $3+. |
I was under the same impression. I actually thought it was $5 more to call. Knowing what I know now, I think its an almost definite call. Anyway, what did you end up doing?
Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:19 pm GMT by Jauron
He said he was getting about 2-1, given how small the pot is thats about all I can give the BB in terms of his stack.
Maybe my math is off or his 2-1 was wrong...
Posted Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:06 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
I don't remember exact stack sizes, but it was deffinitly 2-1.
1st place gets paid, unless there's $30 or more in the pot, in which case 2nd gets buyin back (usually there's between 6 and 4 people, if there's less, we do heads up tournies) (there was only $20 in today, so 1st took it all)
I ended up calling, he showed AQos, flopped a queen, but I turned the straight
I went on to win the match his AK vs my JT, I raised preflop on button, he called, flop AKQ, allin on blank turn, he didn't fill up
Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:32 am GMT by ki_cz
Looks like you were outplayed, but got lucky in some races ...
Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:31 am GMT by Cricket_Fire
| ki_cz wrote: | | Looks like you were outplayed, but got lucky in some races ... |
I did get lucky, but I don't know if I got outplayed... I knew I was behind, but was getting good odds to bust someone
Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:08 pm GMT by Johny
| ki_cz wrote: | | Looks like you were outplayed, but got lucky in some races ... |
Where did he get outplayed?
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:37 am GMT by ki_cz
| Johny wrote: |
Where did he get outplayed? |
Maybe outplayed isn't the right word, but with the 2 hands listed, I definitely don't think the OP should be so confident to stated that he can "definitely outplay" his opponent when in both cases the opponent was up PF and the OP got lucky.
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:15 pm GMT by Cricket_Fire
| ki_cz wrote: | | Johny wrote: |
Where did he get outplayed? |
Maybe outplayed isn't the right word, but with the 2 hands listed, I definitely don't think the OP should be so confident to stated that he can "definitely outplay" his opponent when in both cases the opponent was up PF and the OP got lucky. |
I guess I shouldn't post the hands I'm unsure about. Next time I'll be sure to post when I get allin preflop w/ AA 
Hand 1 has already been explained
Hand 2, it's not like I pulled some huge bad beat on him. I don't know about you, but I don't need to have a lock to make a pf raise heads up 
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