Posted Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:06 am GMT by Oasis
Hey guys, I figured I had a fair few outs on this hand. I ended up folding because I was unsure, but what were my odds here, and was it correct to fold?
Full Tilt Poker Game #923463728: Table Civic Center - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:01:15 ET - 2006/08/22
Seat 2: angusteala ($6.45)
Seat 3: railwayman63 ($11.20)
Seat 4: james bluffett ($7.15)
Seat 5: B4DMAN ($10.75)
Seat 6: Oasis123 ($18.40)
Seat 7: twoccs ($4)
Seat 8: isomasa ($3.90)
Seat 9: MrStaxx_1 ($10.45)
angusteala posts the small blind of $0.05
railwayman63 posts the big blind of $0.10
twoccs posts $0.10
isomasa posts a dead small blind of $0.05
isomasa posts $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Oasis123  
james bluffett calls $0.10
Stolichnaya21 sits down
Stolichnaya21 adds $10
B4DMAN raises to $1
Oasis123 calls $1
twoccs folds
isomasa folds
MrStaxx_1 folds
angusteala folds
railwayman63 folds
james bluffett folds
*** FLOP ***   
B4DMAN bets $1.40
Oasis123 calls $1.40
*** TURN *** 
B4DMAN bets $5.30
Oasis123 has 15 seconds left to act
Oasis123 folds
Uncalled bet of $5.30 returned to B4DMAN
B4DMAN mucks
B4DMAN wins the pot ($4.80)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.30 | Rake $0.50
Board:
Seat 2: angusteala (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: railwayman63 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: james bluffett folded before the Flop
Seat 5: B4DMAN collected ($4.80), mucked
Seat 6: Oasis123 folded on the Turn
Seat 7: twoccs folded before the Flop
Seat 8: isomasa folded before the Flop
Seat 9: MrStaxx_1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
If you could explain the method you use then that would be great, I find it hard to calculate odds quickly at the table so any tips will be appreciated.
Cheers.
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Posted Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:26 pm GMT by aaronw
Well, I think it was a good fold since he was betting a bit more than the pot and you could potentially only have 4 outs (the 4 Queens). You don't even know if your Jacks are outs as he could have a hand like KQ.
And as part of your last question on how to do the odds quickly during the hand. Well, I'm not the greatest at that, butwhat I do is round the pot to the nearest dollar, then I round the bet to the nearest dollar. So instead of $4.80 in the pot, I would round that to $5. And instead of a $5.30 bet, I would round that down to $5.00. It is not 100% accurate, but it gives you a rough idea of where you are at. How does that sound?
Posted Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:28 pm GMT by efram
quick & dirty analysis
pot is $4.80
bet is 5.30
total pot then is now $10.10
little under 2:1 on the pot odds
you have 8 outs to make straight, any 8 or q.
8/46 unseen cards = 17% to catch your straight
this is roughly 5.5 to 1
my way of guestimating this is to take my outs times 10. devide unseen cards into that. To me, its easier math
8x10=80 clearly 46 won't go into 80 twice, close but not quite, so roughly 16 or 17 by estimation. Take this 80/'# of unseen cards', on the river its 46 so 80/46= about 17. Take this result as a percentage to catch your cards. 17%. To calc the ratio, I go by 20% is 5-1. 25% is 4-1, 33% is 3-1 and 10% is 10-1. Here we have 17%, so not quite 20%, or slightly mor e than 5-1. I guess it to be around 5.5 to 1 to catch your hand vs 2-1 pot odds.
clearly not getting odds to call.
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